DO NOT BUY

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

This game is not worth any money at all. Play the original. They messed up the graphics and style, did not include the great intro music, did not include any online multiplayer, did not include a manager mode. There is no reason to buy this. If you are interested just check out the Totalbiscuit review.

[clownfoot]

Trust me, the iOS version is less true of Brutal Deluxe. I've got a review of it here:

http://www.thepixelempire.net/speedball-2-evolution-minis-review.html

The HD version is still somewhat disappointing though, as whilst it's much zippier than the iOS version and the alien races do prove more challenging, there are still AI tweaks and skill balancing required to make it the challenge it should be. My colleague Tom has just reviewed it:

http://www.thepixelempire.net/speedball-2-hd-pc-review.html

And a Knockout tournament mode, like in the original, is something I would dearly like to have seen implemented!

[Skysect]

Originally posted by clownfoot:

Trust me, the iOS version is less true of Brutal Deluxe. I've got a review of it here:

http://www.thepixelempire.net/speedball-2-evolution-minis-review.html

The HD version is still somewhat disappointing though, as whilst it's much zippier than the iOS version and the alien races do prove more challenging, there are still AI tweaks and skill balancing required to make it the challenge it should be. My colleague Tom has just reviewed it:

http://www.thepixelempire.net/speedball-2-hd-pc-review.html

And a Knockout tournament mode, like in the original, is something I would dearly like to have seen implemented!

Evolution graphics looks like original more than HD . Maybe they will implement it as an option .

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by Yakk:

Why to trash a classic like this!?! :(

Because this one's just an HD rehash and not a classic? Also it's locked at 30 fps... on PC, in 2013 when even the original ran a lot faster. Umm, lol?

[Skysect]

Originally posted by Zigi:

Now that I take a second look, the iOS version even looks a bit better than the PC version and more true to the original.

First time we think same thing congratulations :D Keep calm and could you look this thread guys ?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/251690/discussions/0/666828126749785961/

[Lazy Slacker]

The only thing I am happy about is that they added LOCAL-Multiplayer, which was a HUGE disappointment when I bought it for PS3. But it is quite a solid game. :)

[clownfoot]

Originally posted by Skysect:

Evolution graphics looks like original more than HD . Maybe they will implement it as an option .

Graphics, yes. Gameplay (the most important aspect of why Brutal Deluxe is amazing), much less so than the HD version. You need to get beyond what something looks like and judge on how it plays! ;0)

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

Originally posted by clownfoot:

Originally posted by Skysect:

Evolution graphics looks like original more than HD . Maybe they will implement it as an option .

Graphics, yes. Gameplay (the most important aspect of why Brutal Deluxe is amazing), much less so than the HD version. You need to get beyond what something looks like and judge on how it plays! ;0)

It doesn't play well either, since it's way too easy and offers little challenge.

And how are we not supposed to expect decent graphics (at least not terrible) in a HIGH DEFENITION remake of a classic? It should at least have graphics that are on par with the original?

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

It's just horrible all around. The menus are buggy with game pad. The game is super easy. Just lob the ball when you pass the round bumper thing and it will always score above the goaltender. I could go on about the bad things, and I cannot find one good thing about this game. It was an impulse buy that I now regret.

[Common Sense]

The original has four modes : knockout, league, cup and practice.

Think league is the one where you just manage the team i.e handle their gear, cybernetics and buy new players whilst the cpu plays the actual match.

I'd kind of want to get this version but then, just like with chaos engine before it which i did go for, there don't appear to be usb versions of the rotterdam arcade stick and it is a bit silly on my end as there's a functional amiga in the room...

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

Originally posted by Common Sense:

The original has four modes : knockout, league, cup and practice.

Think league is the one where you just manage the team i.e handle their gear, cybernetics and buy new players whilst the cpu plays the actual match.

I'd kind of want to get this version but then, just like with chaos engine before it which i did go for, there don't appear to be usb versions of the rotterdam arcade stick and it is a bit silly on my end as there's a functional amiga in the room...

Surely you can get an adapter for the Atari port joysticks to USB?

What about this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Atari-PC-USB-Cable-RETROLINK-2600/dp/B007ZS35CU

But you probably want to do some reading on this board before you make your mind up about getting this version, and check out the TotalBiscuit review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynXx_O5uw34

[*fu* Dr.n00b]

But you probably want to do some reading on this board before you make your mind up about getting this version, and check out the TotalBiscuit review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynXx_O5uw34

Rofl why is the ball so huge when it goes up in the air - also it falls much faster than it rises, which is not proper physics and so is very offputting when trying to track the ball.

Here is what the original looks like - the art style is so much more consistent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9hfHQqOLM

... and the ball only goes huge on the initial *power* launch.

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

The worst part is that the ball also goes off center when it flies up into the air, distorting your feeling for where the ball is on the playing field. But that is one of the last things to worry about with this horrible release.

[Outlander999]

Originally posted by TinHornPoppy:

It actually plays a lot like the original. The speed and difficulty reminds me of how it used to be on the Amiga (good thing). I really want to play this game with an Arcade joystick to be sure :) It's not that bad. I agree the graphics could have been a bit better though.

Difficult?
I find it REALLY easy. Amiga version was much more difficult...

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

Well there are basically two ways you can lose at this game.

1. You get to play a completely maxed out team early in the second season when you still have pitiful stats. This after completely steamrolling every team in the first season with 100-200 points per match all of a sudden it is almost impossible to tackle the oponent and they are almost twice as fast, then it does get a bit of a challenge.

2. As I just did... You get in a Brutal Deluxe vs. Brutal Deluxe match, both wearing the exact same outfits and with the same stats making it IMPOSSIBLE to tell them apart, then when the match is over the game crashes.

After playing for 2 hours and winning all but those 2 matches, the game crashing and me having eye strain from the jerky graphics due to a really low framerate I have only one thing to say:

This game SUUUUUUUUCKS! I want my money back. I bought over a hundred games on Steam, some impulse buys, most great, some not so good. This is the first game that is so bad and does not come close to being what it promises that I will ask for a refund.

MAN I am dissapointed. I loved the original, loved every Bitmap Brothers game. This is really ruining my memories. The guys behind this should be ashamed.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/470922194890719898/83B2FA5B227992D4977BDF05C1F3C70100AC8155/

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/470922194890727257/AD1D1008F0ECC04629AD08FBFF250A470FAC04BB/

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/470922194890742331/5109664D51B1A6E84C2024B2F3DE26214054FC28/

[Captain Viggo]

I so wish they would have worked with Dan Malone, the original artist who gave The Bitmap Brothers their true visual identity...

Basically I would have been more than pleased with just an enhanced version of the original game: take the same graphics (or just slightly enhanced), add an online multiplayer, add new teams, buyable players and fields, add game modes and options like duration (I've always been a bit frustrated by the duration of a match in multiplayer mode).

That said, I would even instantly buy a direct PC/Mac port of the Amiga version.

Between this and "Flashback HD", I've been more than disappointed with remakes of good old Amiga games this year... So far, only Eric Chahi with Another World has really understood what an enhanced version of an old game really means, without betraying the qualities of the original.