Frame Generation During 30 fps Cutscenes

[old-laptop-battery]

Wanted to try using frame generation during gameplay (even though it's normally around 45-60 i think), and i got a good boost. Game play looks pretty good, but feels like it's causing some of the cutscenes to be blurry under certain conditions. i'm guessing since it's capped at 30fps? not sure.

Anybody know how frame gen works at capped fps when you can natively get higher than the cap? Is it just natively rendering 15 frames, and then using frame gen for the others?

[Krauser]

You need to use this to fix that and other tweaks:

https://github.com/Lyall/FFXVIFix

[Doctor Hades]

Frame gen is disabled for the cutscenes as these are capped at 30 fps.

You need to use a mod such as FFXVIFix if you want to uncap the cutscenes and allow frame gen to be used with them.

[REBirthTheEdge]

I don't use framegen at all since it makes the game look unnatural.

Tho, why exactly the need to make uncapped cutscenes, most movies are cinematic at 24fps, 30fps is more than enough.

[The Big Z]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

I don't use framegen at all since it makes the game look unnatural.

Unnatural how? Aside from some minor ghosting I think it looks great with this game. At least with DLSS frame gen. Haven’t tried FSR.

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Tho, why exactly the need to make uncapped cutscenes, most movies are cinematic at 24fps, 30fps is more than enough.

When you’re playing a game at 100+ fps and suddenly it drops to a locked 30 it looks extremely choppy because your eyes are used to the higher frame rate. Even 60 to a sudden 30 is pretty horrendous.

[Koryiaki]

Originally posted by Doctor Hades:

Frame gen is disabled for the cutscenes as these are capped at 30 fps.

You need to use a mod such as FFXVIFix if you want to uncap the cutscenes and allow frame gen to be used with them.

AMD 3 with frame gen works during cutscenes but you exchange the random frame dips for blur when it is generating frames. My theory is the worse your rig, the more blur since I've heard people mention the blur gets really bad but I only get blur around the edges of the hair.

[The Big Z]

Originally posted by Koryiaki:

AMD 3 with frame gen works during cutscenes but you exchange the random frame dips for blur when it is generating frames. My theory is the worse your rig, the more blur since I've heard people mention the blur gets really bad but I only get blur around the edges of the hair.

This is right in a sense. The lower the average framerate before turning on frame gen, the more likely and more pronounced visual artifacts like blur and ghosting will be, because there are less "normal" frames to use as information for generating the "in between" frames. This is why both Nvidia and AMD recommend you to already be hitting that 60fps mark before enabling frame gen. Frame gen tech is really intended for pushing into high refresh rate territory. People using it just to reach 60 are not using it for its intended purpose. I've used it for some emulation stuff that is locked at 30 and it works great to improve the smoothness of motion but there are definitely other visual issues that get introduced. Whether it's worth the trade off or not is up to the user I suppose.

[old-laptop-battery]

Originally posted by Doctor Hades:

Frame gen is disabled for the cutscenes as these are capped at 30 fps.

You need to use a mod such as FFXVIFix if you want to uncap the cutscenes and allow frame gen to be used with them.

okay yeah i wasn't wanting to uncap it or get it above 30fps, just was wondering if frame gen might be giving a lower quality during cutscenes by using frame gen frames instead of just natively rendering the 30 frames. since it's disabled for cutscenes, that fine.

[old-laptop-battery]

Originally posted by Krauser:

You need to use this to fix that and other tweaks:

https://github.com/Lyall/FFXVIFix

this looks cool! thanks!

[old-laptop-battery]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

I don't use framegen at all since it makes the game look unnatural.

Tho, why exactly the need to make uncapped cutscenes, most movies are cinematic at 24fps, 30fps is more than enough.

wasn't trying to get it uncapped, was just trying to see if it was natively rendering the 30 frames used during the 30fps sections, or if some of the frames were lesser quality frame gen frames. But it looks like from another reply that frame gen is disabled during cutscenes, so it works out.