Alternative solution to FPS problems.

[alvarjt]

NVIDIA Application Version: 10.0.2.210
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Version 10.0.22631
DirectX: DirectX 12
Driver: Nvidia 561.09 - Sep 10, 2024
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X 6-Core Processor
RAM: 32.0 GB
GPU Processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB

I had an issue with low FPS in the game. After trying all configuration solutions, changing resolutions (both 1080p and 4K), and applying all patches, the game still wouldn't go above 15 FPS in some areas. On average, with frame generation enabled, I barely reached 40 FPS. Thanks to a comment in this section, I discovered that the issue was related to the GPU connection. I moved the graphics card to another socket on the motherboard, and all performance problems were solved. The game now consistently runs over 60 FPS at 2K resolution with everything set to ultra.

It seems like the game has major optimization issues, but making this change felt like night and day. If you're experiencing low FPS and have already checked drivers, temperatures, and settings, and exhausted all possible solutions like I did, try changing the GPU to a different socket. As strange as it sounds, it worked wonders for me!

P.S. This was the only game causing me this issue, and making the change didn’t bring any other problems.

Sorry for the translation, my English is very bad.

[iameatingjam]

Does it get worse after the demo? I got smooth performance and am downloading the full game now.

As for your problem, are you saying you were running your gpu with only 8 lanes (as opposed to usual 16) in a pcie 3 slot? ( or possibly even a 4 lane slot?) And thats a game optimization problem?

[alvarjt]

Originally posted by iameatingjam:

Does it get worse after the demo? I got smooth performance and am downloading the full game now.

As for your problem, are you saying you were running your gpu with only 8 lanes (as opposed to usual 16) in a pcie 3 slot? ( or possibly even a 4 lane slot?) And thats a game optimization problem?

My board has 2 PCI x16 ports for video cards that in theory are identical, and they look the same, moving the board from one port to another solved all the errors.

With other games I had no problems and did not notice any improvement in other games.

[ZIGS]

Did you move it to a slot closer to the CPU?

[alvarjt]

Originally posted by ZIGS:

Did you move it to a slot closer to the CPU?

Yes.

[ZIGS]

Originally posted by alvarjt:

Originally posted by ZIGS:

Did you move it to a slot closer to the CPU?

Yes.

Are you sure you have two x16 slots? Because usually on boards with one x16 and one x8 (the most common type), the one closer to the CPU is always the x16 one. Even the x8 slot will be full-length so you probably think they're both x16 but most likely not.
Anyway, at least it solved the issue

[iameatingjam]

Originally posted by alvarjt:

Originally posted by iameatingjam:

Does it get worse after the demo? I got smooth performance and am downloading the full game now.

As for your problem, are you saying you were running your gpu with only 8 lanes (as opposed to usual 16) in a pcie 3 slot? ( or possibly even a 4 lane slot?) And thats a game optimization problem?

My board has 2 PCI x16 ports for video cards that in theory are identical, and they look the same, moving the board from one port to another solved all the errors.

With other games I had no problems and did not notice any improvement in other games.

Okay first of all... the fact that they are x16 doesn't matter when its 8 lane card. The slot closest to the cpu uses cpu pcie lanes, the slots below use chipset lanes. Thats probably the reason. Or part of it at least.

What mobo do you have?

[alvarjt]

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

[ZIGS]

Originally posted by alvarjt:

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

Yeah bro, the slot you had the GPU in only runs in 8X. Good thing this game is so poorly-coded it made you fix your mistake, lol

[alvarjt]

Originally posted by ZIGS:

Originally posted by alvarjt:

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

Yeah bro, the slot you had the GPU in only runs in 8X. Good thing this game is so poorly-coded it made you fix your mistake, lol

Why do you want to start a fight, keep the sarcasm, I don't want to fight, I posted it to help, the game has problems and we are all trying to solve them, if it helps you try it, if it bothers you in any way sorry but this post is not an attack for you, if it can help someone else, why does it bother you? have a nice day-.

[redk]

Originally posted by alvarjt:

Originally posted by iameatingjam:

Does it get worse after the demo? I got smooth performance and am downloading the full game now.

As for your problem, are you saying you were running your gpu with only 8 lanes (as opposed to usual 16) in a pcie 3 slot? ( or possibly even a 4 lane slot?) And thats a game optimization problem?

My board has 2 PCI x16 ports for video cards that in theory are identical, and they look the same, moving the board from one port to another solved all the errors.

With other games I had no problems and did not notice any improvement in other games.

None of the modern boards have 2 PCI x16 ports that are "identical". In modern architectures, on the consumer side, the CPU only has 16 lanes available for the PCIE slots, and so only 1 slot is directly connected to the CPU with all 16 lanes, usually the one closest to the CPU.

If you have 2 slots connected to the CPU, using the 2nd, lower slot will usually result in bifurcation of lanes to 8x/8x automatically. The 2nd 16x slot is only 16x mechanically when it is present. It is not actually 16x.

Of course this only matters very little, unless you're connecting to a non-CPU connected slot.

[iameatingjam]

Originally posted by ZIGS:

Originally posted by alvarjt:

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

Yeah bro, the slot you had the GPU in only runs in 8X. Good thing this game is so poorly-coded it made you fix your mistake, lol

The amount of lanes shouldn't be the problem, since its a 8 lane card anyway. The problem is 1) the top slot is cpu lanes and the bottom is chipset lanes 2) And this is even worse than I thought, the top slot is pcie 3 and lower slot is pcie 2.

Originally posted by alvarjt:

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

Yeah its even worse than I thought, your top slot is pcie 3, your bottom slot is pcie 2. Ouch. Even in the top slot you are losing a significant amount of your cards performance. Thats too bad.

Anyway, sorry if I came off rude that wasn't my intention. But even your top slot is pcie 3, which means your card loses about 30% of its performance. The bottom slot it would lose even more, 60%? Possibly even more. Every generation doubles bandwidth so every generation back halves it. This card is meant for pcie 4 connections and you were running in on pcie 2. That definitely isn't an optimization problem.

Nevertheless, I'm glad the pcie 3 connection is at least enough for you to get some decent performance.

[iameatingjam]

Originally posted by redk:

Originally posted by alvarjt:

My board has 2 PCI x16 ports for video cards that in theory are identical, and they look the same, moving the board from one port to another solved all the errors.

With other games I had no problems and did not notice any improvement in other games.

None of the modern boards have 2 PCI x16 ports that are "identical". In modern architectures, on the consumer side, the CPU only has 16 lanes available for the PCIE slots, and so only 1 slot is directly connected to the CPU with all 16 lanes, usually the one closest to the CPU.

If you have 2 slots connected to the CPU, using the 2nd, lower slot will usually result in bifurcation of lanes to 8x/8x automatically. The 2nd 16x slot is only 16x mechanically when it is present. It is not actually 16x.

Of course this only matters very little, unless you're connecting to a non-CPU connected slot.

Well he was technically right about that, they are both 16x slots ( not that it matters on a 8 lane card). But the top slot is pcie 3 and the bottom slot is pcie 2. So that I'm thinking is the biggest factor. Also possibly a factor is the bottom one being on chipset lanes.

[alvarjt]

Originally posted by iameatingjam:

Originally posted by ZIGS:

Yeah bro, the slot you had the GPU in only runs in 8X. Good thing this game is so poorly-coded it made you fix your mistake, lol

The amount of lanes shouldn't be the problem, since its a 8 lane card anyway. The problem is 1) the top slot is cpu lanes and the bottom is chipset lanes 2) And this is even worse than I thought, the top slot is pcie 3 and lower slot is pcie 2.

Originally posted by alvarjt:

ASRock B450M Pro4-F I leave the research to you, in the end, moving it solved the problems, and it is the only game I had problems with.

Yeah its even worse than I thought, your top slot is pcie 3, your bottom slot is pcie 2. Ouch. Even in the top slot you are losing a significant amount of your cards performance. Thats too bad.

Anyway, sorry if I came off rude that wasn't my intention. But even your top slot is pcie 3, which means your card loses about 30% of its performance. The bottom slot it would lose even more, 60%? Possibly even more. Every generation doubles bandwidth so every generation back halves it. This card is meant for pcie 4 connections and you were running in on pcie 2. That definitely isn't an optimization problem.

Nevertheless, I'm glad the pcie 3 connection is at least enough for you to get some decent performance.

Thanks for the answer, you gave me a lot of information.