FINAL FANTASY XVI

FINAL FANTASY XVI

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SENMSL Sep 20, 2024 @ 7:23pm
How's the story?
Is it some traditional romance story or some traditional revenge story? If not, what's the new thing?
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Holy Fool Sehrael Sep 20, 2024 @ 7:24pm 
I'd say it's neither. Can't really label it yet. I like it.
󠀡󠀡 Sep 20, 2024 @ 7:28pm 
I wouldn't really say it's 'one' thing, I can't really explain without it really being a spoiler, but it's a mix of both of what you said, I'd say.
Viper Sep 20, 2024 @ 7:37pm 
Story is very good in my opinion. Can't really put label on it without spoiling however. In other games I sometimes lose interest and zone out in the story. But this one has been very enjoyable so far. Have not missed a single cutscene.
Revenge, romance and anti establishment are core narratives for the plot. There's some high fantasy stuff going on too but spoilers are bad and I haven't seen exactly what's going on yet myself but I know it's coming since the main antagonist has been namedropped a few times now.
SENMSL Sep 20, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
Don't mind spoilers. Just tell me.
B3ASTMAN Sep 20, 2024 @ 9:03pm 
Honestly it feels like a rehash of FF7 on the plot front. Its not bad but I can't help but sit there and think "ff7 did this in a more impactful way". It has a lot more geopolitics going on but the amount of plot points that are kinda straight up lifted from FF7 is a bit more than a coincidence imo. I dunno how far in I am, probably half way? So it's got time to surprise me.

I mean hey if it works don't break it, yknow.

Gameplay wise it's got the fingerprints of the FFXIV team all over it. Main story missions are literally structured like FFXIV dungeons, trash packs, minibosses, more trash packs and a boss at the end. In between that most of your story quests are "talk to this guy so he can tell you to talk to someone who you actually need to talk to" "find these items for a person you'll never talk to again because they're crucial for unlocking the town gate" "save this neighbourhood dogwalker so they can tell you something important about the secret entrance to the royal handsmaid's bedchamber" "now kill 8 roaming carnivorous plants who have ambushed the next plot-crucial yet forgettable NPC you'll talk to once". All of this is laden with cutscenes and dialogue that go out of its way to tell you about the many little intricacies of the world and the area you're in, and you often end up learning something important or interesting that adds a significant context to things. If this sounds unbearable then the game isn't for you. But lots of people love FFXIV for this kinda thing.
SENMSL Sep 20, 2024 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by B3ASTMAN:
"save this neighbourhood dogwalker so they can tell you something important about the secret entrance to the royal handsmaid's bedchamber"
I see that's romance. :steamlaughcry:
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SENMSL Sep 20, 2024 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by B3ASTMAN:
Honestly it feels like a rehash of FF7 on the plot front. Its not bad but I can't help but sit there and think "ff7 did this in a more impactful way". It has a lot more geopolitics going on but the amount of plot points that are kinda straight up lifted from FF7 is a bit more than a coincidence imo. I dunno how far in I am, probably half way? So it's got time to surprise me.

I mean hey if it works don't break it, yknow.

Gameplay wise it's got the fingerprints of the FFXIV team all over it. Main story missions are literally structured like FFXIV dungeons, trash packs, minibosses, more trash packs and a boss at the end. In between that most of your story quests are "talk to this guy so he can tell you to talk to someone who you actually need to talk to" "find these items for a person you'll never talk to again because they're crucial for unlocking the town gate" "save this neighbourhood dogwalker so they can tell you something important about the secret entrance to the royal handsmaid's bedchamber" "now kill 8 roaming carnivorous plants who have ambushed the next plot-crucial yet forgettable NPC you'll talk to once". All of this is laden with cutscenes and dialogue that go out of its way to tell you about the many little intricacies of the world and the area you're in, and you often end up learning something important or interesting that adds a significant context to things. If this sounds unbearable then the game isn't for you. But lots of people love FFXIV for this kinda thing.
So it's about politics as I get it?
I can accept politics as the main contents of the story if it is like Just Cause 3. It happens to also be published by SE.
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Zolvolt Sep 21, 2024 @ 2:18am 
It's extremely political. Which, I mean most FF games are. Good story.
IsolatedOctopi Sep 21, 2024 @ 2:42am 
I do prefer FF7 :: I got this because rebirth isn't yet on PC :: FF XVI is not my kind of FF
Tiberius Sep 21, 2024 @ 2:50am 
Depressing. Even the soundtrack feels moody
Grimm Sep 21, 2024 @ 3:08am 
it is very political , sad , depressing , heartwarming.
dlux Sep 21, 2024 @ 3:21am 
The story is a high-fantasy epic and I think it is very good. Very typical Final Fantasy stuff, but much darker. The world building is reminiscent of FFI, FFII and FFIII, so Final Fantasy has returned to its roots, one could say.
Nightmarian Sep 21, 2024 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by SENMSL:
Is it some traditional romance story or some traditional revenge story? If not, what's the new thing?

It's really tropey and they don't exactly do anything amazing. No, it's not a traditional revenge story though. My biggest complaint is that they swap from a political intrigue, global-scale story about war, ambition, duty, and fate, and then lazily devolve into another "we most somehow kill god and I know we can do it so long as we have the power of friendship" bullcrap.

What's funny is also that Yoshi P said he took inspiration from Game of Thrones, but he didn't. He just copied some characters and scenes over exactly, like how Clive's father dies in front of his little brother by being beheaded.

But everything else, like the grimness and rustic chaos of the world, isn't even remotely touched. I'm sure people used to playing only JRPGs where some kid will walk in and warm an assassin guild leader's heart and have him turn from his evil ways will find it fairly dark, but as far as games and especially as general fantasy goes, this is still kiddie pool territory.

The also poorly handles a lot of its would-be darker elements and shies away from stuff like sexual violence. I.e. game sets up hateful 'racist' executions as like big plot twists in scenes, but after you've already seen countless people murdered for really dumb reasons a bunch of times already. So it feels overplayed and just so eye-rolly.

Another complaint is that Clive is a super traditional good two shoes with no faults other than he hates himself for an easily forgivable reason that takes him way too long to get over.

I would prefer him to be more morally gray, and in this case it would be far more realistic. For instance, there's a side quest (they all suck but still) where some noble is asking branded (basically magic-slaves) to find his son who is being attacked by wolves. Turns out the wolf is a family pet, they bait branded into getting eaten by wolves and find it funny.

Clive survives, learns of this, and just tells them off before walking away like a loser. If this was GOTY, he would have locked them in the house with the wolf or killed them himself.

Though they do get their just desserts it's in a cop-out way that keeps Clive a good pure goody boy.

Yoshi P was clearly out of his depth here and tried writing a story he wasn't ready to commit to.

All in all though, it's not terrible. You won't remember it for long though, and it's really sad the entire premise of the game is thrown out for something super generic 90% of the way through.

If you guessed like I did in the first few opening hours that Ultima was going to be at it again, then well well well... you're exactly on the railed ride you think this will be.
Last edited by Nightmarian; Sep 21, 2024 @ 3:32am
level3 Sep 21, 2024 @ 3:56am 
Politics + magic crystals as of 26 hours. Is it good? Idk it's like whatever. At least it's not bad and not your typical jrpg story (yet)
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