FINAL FANTASY XVI

FINAL FANTASY XVI

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Ev Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:33pm
RTX 2060 Barely Keeps 30 FPS
Specs: RTX 2060 6 GB, an i7-10700K, 32 GB of ram, and an SSD.

All I want is a stable 30 FPS, yet several scenes and gameplay drop 10-20 frames. Almost all my graphics are medium, a couple set to low. Am I the problem or is the port just bad?

Edit: I missed the 8GB VRAM requirement. Looks like it's still possible to run it on a 2060 depending on the settings, but it's probably time to upgrade.

Edit: Upgraded to an RTX 4070s 12gb. Takes it like a tank now!
Last edited by Ev; Sep 1, 2024 @ 10:34pm
Originally posted by Xengre:
Originally posted by PoeticPaladin10:
It's a poorly optimised port. I have a 2070s and had to set it to low to get a smooth framerate, so you definitely need to drop down as well.

And that's at 1440p (with DLSS).

The good news is the game still looks great at low.
OP's PC is the issue. The 2060 is, quite literally, barely above a 1070 which is the absolute minimum requirement listed for the game's specs.

His CPU is also on the weaker bad (but not unviable), sitting about halfway between minimum and recommended (so it wont be flawless but it will not fail).

OP, you might need to put more settings to low, but I would mess around more with the upscaling options first. Dynamic could also get you more consistent results, but at lower resolutions it can also prove nastier on image quality. I would test and decide for yourself.

Drop shadows to low, probably, if it is still above low.

Have you tried with frame generation yet?

Here is someone doing several tests with a RTX 2060 at different configurations and their performance if you want to compare and mess around to see what works best for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmF1pnWYWc

You might be surprised at some of the results they got and it thus may help.
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PoeticPaladin10 Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
It's a poorly optimised port. I have a 2070s and had to set it to low to get a smooth framerate, so you definitely need to drop down as well.

And that's at 1440p (with DLSS).

The good news is the game still looks great at low.
Ev Aug 27, 2024 @ 5:48pm 
Yeah I'm using 1080p and just dropped everything to low. Still looks good but the frames just can't keep a stable 30!
fps is also all over the place does not matter your setup i saw benchmarks of way better pc's of mine and the fps is literally all over the place,some say its the lighting or the lumen it has in built sad cause i was rlly excited for this game but ... oh well if it ever gets slighty fixed it will be on release or after release no way they fix this in 3 weeks
shizzler1973 Aug 27, 2024 @ 6:50pm 
I have a 3080 RTX and I cant get above 10 FPS and thats with medium settings... Hopefully full version is better.
qsdww Aug 27, 2024 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by shizzler1973:
I have a 3080 RTX and I cant get above 10 FPS and thats with medium settings... Hopefully full version is better.
Really, are you playing on 4k because even the 4090 can't even reach 60fps at native 4k without using DLSS+FG.
PoeticPaladin10 Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by Angelino {let me cook}:
oh well if it ever gets slighty fixed it will be on release or after release no way they fix this in 3 weeks

Well if it's on release that means they have fixed it within 3 weeks. They patched the demo quickly and fixed the blurriness.

Speaking of, where does Square get feedback to know what to fix, they just monitor social media and forums posts?
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Xengre Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by PoeticPaladin10:
It's a poorly optimised port. I have a 2070s and had to set it to low to get a smooth framerate, so you definitely need to drop down as well.

And that's at 1440p (with DLSS).

The good news is the game still looks great at low.
OP's PC is the issue. The 2060 is, quite literally, barely above a 1070 which is the absolute minimum requirement listed for the game's specs.

His CPU is also on the weaker bad (but not unviable), sitting about halfway between minimum and recommended (so it wont be flawless but it will not fail).

OP, you might need to put more settings to low, but I would mess around more with the upscaling options first. Dynamic could also get you more consistent results, but at lower resolutions it can also prove nastier on image quality. I would test and decide for yourself.

Drop shadows to low, probably, if it is still above low.

Have you tried with frame generation yet?

Here is someone doing several tests with a RTX 2060 at different configurations and their performance if you want to compare and mess around to see what works best for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmF1pnWYWc

You might be surprised at some of the results they got and it thus may help.
Ev Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:59pm 
Originally posted by Xengre:
Originally posted by PoeticPaladin10:
It's a poorly optimised port. I have a 2070s and had to set it to low to get a smooth framerate, so you definitely need to drop down as well.

And that's at 1440p (with DLSS).

The good news is the game still looks great at low.
OP's PC is the issue. The 2060 is, quite literally, barely above a 1070 which is the absolute minimum requirement listed for the game's specs.

His CPU is also on the weaker bad (but not unviable), sitting about halfway between minimum and recommended (so it wont be flawless but it will not fail).

OP, you might need to put more settings to low, but I would mess around more with the upscaling options first. Dynamic could also get you more consistent results, but at lower resolutions it can also prove nastier on image quality. I would test and decide for yourself.

Drop shadows to low, probably, if it is still above low.

Have you tried with frame generation yet?

Here is someone doing several tests with a RTX 2060 at different configurations and their performance if you want to compare and mess around to see what works best for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmF1pnWYWc

You might be surprised at some of the results they got and it thus may help.
Based off the Steam page recommended requirements, my CPU should be in the clear, if not slightly better (According to UserBenchmark). Steam page recommends an i7-10700 and I have the i7-10700k.

GPU-wise, I guess I didn't realize how big of a gap the RTX 2060 and RTX 2080 have. I'll mess around with the settings and refer to the benchmark video, thanks.
Crene Aug 27, 2024 @ 9:07pm 
one of my PC run this with a RTX 2070 8gb with no problem
Xapheus Aug 27, 2024 @ 9:33pm 
The requirements on the store page says you need a card with 8 GB VRAM even on the minimum specs.
Prashanth Aug 27, 2024 @ 9:54pm 
Vram is root cause issue .
Koby Aug 27, 2024 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by shizzler1973:
I have a 3080 RTX and I cant get above 10 FPS and thats with medium settings... Hopefully full version is better.
My 3060 was able to maintain stable 80+ fps with mostly max settings.
Sr. Tequila Aug 28, 2024 @ 1:45am 
This port is crap. I have a 7900xtx and it can't run the demo at native 4k without the fps going from 40s to 50s constantly, the game doesnt even look that good to justify such mediocre performance. Im gonna wait until it's on a good sale before buying it.
Karumati Aug 28, 2024 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by PoeticPaladin10:
It's a poorly optimised port. I have a 2070s and had to set it to low to get a smooth framerate, so you definitely need to drop down as well.

And that's at 1440p (with DLSS).

The good news is the game still looks great at low.
2070s is more like 1080p gpu now
Xengre Aug 28, 2024 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Ev:
Originally posted by Xengre:
OP's PC is the issue. The 2060 is, quite literally, barely above a 1070 which is the absolute minimum requirement listed for the game's specs.

His CPU is also on the weaker bad (but not unviable), sitting about halfway between minimum and recommended (so it wont be flawless but it will not fail).

OP, you might need to put more settings to low, but I would mess around more with the upscaling options first. Dynamic could also get you more consistent results, but at lower resolutions it can also prove nastier on image quality. I would test and decide for yourself.

Drop shadows to low, probably, if it is still above low.

Have you tried with frame generation yet?

Here is someone doing several tests with a RTX 2060 at different configurations and their performance if you want to compare and mess around to see what works best for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmF1pnWYWc

You might be surprised at some of the results they got and it thus may help.
Based off the Steam page recommended requirements, my CPU should be in the clear, if not slightly better (According to UserBenchmark). Steam page recommends an i7-10700 and I have the i7-10700k.

GPU-wise, I guess I didn't realize how big of a gap the RTX 2060 and RTX 2080 have. I'll mess around with the settings and refer to the benchmark video, thanks.
Yup, as I mentioned your CPU should be fine as it sits between the minimum and recommended. It wont produce flawless performance guaranteed such as a 100% stutter free experience (though it shoudl be mostly non-issue), it may decrease loading speeds (potentially, not guaranteed... you would know better having played the demo), how many NPCs on screen setting should be set, and it can impact maximum as well as avg/max/min framerate to an extent (though the GPU is most important there by far, CPU has an impact).

Indeed, hopefully messing around like they did in that video gets you satisfying results with that GPU. Fortunately, you have an SSD (which a lot of more budget oriented systems lack, and this game it is critical).



Originally posted by Sr. Tequila:
This port is crap. I have a 7900xtx and it can't run the demo at native 4k without the fps going from 40s to 50s constantly, the game doesnt even look that good to justify such mediocre performance. Im gonna wait until it's on a good sale before buying it.
You should get out of the habit of assuming if you can't hit 60 FPS on a high end GPU at "native" a modern game is unoptimized. Because upscaling technology has gotten so good a lot of developers have (and will likely continue to adopt this strategy) of pushing visual quality and thus demands and expecting players to utilize upscaling tech to offset the increased performance.

If you absolutely insist (for some bizarre reason) to not use upscaling then you should be lowering the quality settings for the game because that is how it is designed. This can be because they used more advanced shader effects, demanding particle system/usage, higher poly count models, more on screen details, etc. that eat up resources with this expectation of the player using upscaling. None of that is an "optimization issue" nor a performance bug. They're using a different hardware capability target, instead. Optimization issues assume performance can be radically improved via, precisely, optimizations as if there is such spare room to optimize and keep the exact same graphical output...
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