FF XVI is beaten by turn based RPG Metaphor: ReFantazio

[Bigboss PC Faster]

Is it time for Final Fantasy to stop pampering mainstream audience and return to turn based RPG?

[Scarlet Crusade]

They could just make new games using that FF Pixel Remaster assets. They had plenty of that in FFXVI. When I saw the menu of Kairos Gate I was like oh you… the party member sprites and Clive talking to Harpocrates alert pop-up were one thing, but… yeah.

[Amvorn]

Originally posted by Nyx:

Originally posted by aweigh:

Squeenix needs to use the FF7 Remake trilogy's combat and party member system as the foundation going foward.

If they stick with FF16's mindless action the series is dead.

Don't y'all want turn based combat?? Then forget FFVII's pseudo-action system, SQ should just copy BG3 for the next game.

I think people would be happy to just have a RPG back. Its easy to see the divide between Action RPG and Turn Based RPG but FF16 is not even a RPG. Its a Action game with a facade of a RPG painted over it. This game lacks what most people look for in every RPG, Player Choice. Now those choices can come in a variety of ways from story to character builds but this game lacks EVERYTHING that makes a Action/Turnbased RPG.... A RPG.

[Pnume]

One possible culprit for the lack of success, I haven't seen here (maybe I missed it) is actually FF XV.

This game has disappointed a lot of people and may have mined the field for FF XVI

[Scarlet Crusade]

FFXV was indeed so terrible that FFXVI was me giving the series one final chance to redeem itself. Thankfully, it restored some of my faith, to see where it goes from here.

[aweigh]

Originally posted by Nyx:

Originally posted by aweigh:

Squeenix needs to use the FF7 Remake trilogy's combat and party member system as the foundation going foward.

If they stick with FF16's mindless action the series is dead.

Don't y'all want turn based combat?? Then forget FFVII's pseudo-action system, SQ should just copy BG3 for the next game.

I loved the combat in the FF7 Remake games. I would be very happy if the FF series utilized this as the foundation going foward, and Dragon Quest series for turn-based.

[Vhlaaat]

Originally posted by Shodingus:

Originally posted by Vhlaaat:

Tried refantazio demo and it's a snorefest. Couldn't get by all cutscenes without the skip button lol tbh I'm not a big fan of persona series, I hate how they styled the UI in their combat. And the plot of the game is just your usual anime trope, nothing interesting. Clair obscur is even more engaging in combat compared to this.

We get it you have ADD and need flashy particles to keep your attention

Flashy particles? Really? I guess you haven't watched the gameplay trailer. What makes it engaging is it's hybrid turn based system. You need to time your dodge/def to negate the damage as well as the attack button to do enhanced dmg. This is the same feature that legend of dragoon had back in the days that makes them unique in their era. As for refantazio? Another reskinned persona titles imo lol

[Dagný]

Resoundingly beaten
It's not a surprise because JRPGS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hack and slash games

[$OULJA $TRIFE]

FF16 still outsold fantsnooze on one console lol

cope with your rehashed persona 5 from 8 years ago

[aweigh]

Originally posted by Amvorn:

Originally posted by Nyx:

Don't y'all want turn based combat?? Then forget FFVII's pseudo-action system, SQ should just copy BG3 for the next game.

I think people would be happy to just have a RPG back. Its easy to see the divide between Action RPG and Turn Based RPG but FF16 is not even a RPG. Its a Action game with a facade of a RPG painted over it. This game lacks what most people look for in every RPG, Player Choice. Now those choices can come in a variety of ways from story to character builds but this game lacks EVERYTHING that makes a Action/Turnbased RPG.... A RPG.

I'm clapping for this, very well said my friend.

The issue goes much deeper than just the combat system... people want to play an RPG, not an action game.

[ButtGravy]

Originally posted by Shodingus:

Originally posted by ButtGravy:

So, what's a fake jrpg lover? Who decides on that?

Me. I do.

Are your parents proud of you?

[stav8]

I'm actually really enjoying 16
I also loved the old turn based games
I also really enjoyed like a dragon which is the best iteration of modern turn based RPG I've seen in a while.
I agree it doesn't feel like a final fantasy game but I am still enjoying it regardless and it's one of the best games I've played this year.

Also for the complaints of linearity of this game, they all have very linear main stories. The side quests were hidden though which have given off the perception of non linearity. The modern games tell you where the sidequests are. That is the biggest design difference after combat

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

Originally posted by ButtGravy:

Originally posted by The Sylvan Learning Center:

Well if you enjoy DMC clones with the words "final fantasy" copy pasted into the title, and if you DONT like metaphor, then...

Can you prove that's what it means to be a "fake jrpg lover"? I want to know who decides too.

Nice no true Scotsman fallacy.

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