Did they fix the frame rate?

[oda.iori]

or its still a piece of trash with legs?

[jarheadv12]

The last update for the game was about a month and a half ago and no it didn't help the frame rate unfortunately. The game still runs pretty bad even on good hardware

[oda.iori]

Originally posted by jarheadv12:

The last update for the game was about a month and a half ago and no it didn't help the frame rate unfortunately. The game still runs pretty bad even on good hardware

Square Enix really fell off in the last few years. I've played the whole series until FF15 (on consoles) and the last great game at least for me was FF12 IZJS. I enjoyed FF13 and 13-2, but FF15 was a very shallow experience.

I Like what i've seen in FF16, but when i tried the demo it ran like crap on a I9 12900K, 32GB Ram, RTX 3060. Frame rate at 30 FPS dropping to 12FPS during scenes (I run RE4 Remake at 4k). Square Enix ports for PC were always lame (remember the 15 FPS on FF13?) but this is beyond acceptable.

[Danテディ]

All FF games since 13 were a big downfall.
Star Ocean is also really bad since 5.

Either go for some classics or stuff like romancing saga if you want a somewhat decent experience by SE.
And if you want a real JRPG, don't play games by Bamco or SE at all, their time in case of JRPG is more or less over (unless they decide to go back to the roots)

[Peludismo]

Originally posted by Danテディ:

All FF games since 13 were a big downfall.
Star Ocean is also really bad since 5.

Either go for some classics or stuff like romancing saga if you want a somewhat decent experience by SE.
And if you want a real JRPG, don't play games by Bamco or SE at all, their time in case of JRPG is more or less over (unless they decide to go back to the roots)

I liked Star Ocean 6!. I mean, it definitely isn't a masterpiece but it was a pretty solid game, it has some flaws but none that was a deal breaker.

FFXVI is kinda the same i think. Good game but not perfect. I wish that it wasn't so leaned towards action but oh well, it's not the end of the world for me.

I think that a lot of criticism around the internet is kinda nonsense, Every game is expected to generate a revolution. I mean, it's a game that served it's purpose. People need to chill out a little and just try to enjoy

Now, going back to the topic, no, the game is extremely demanding and i don't think the game will get patched to make it better. The only solution is to upgrade the PC (sadly). Just keep in mind that we'll now need a lot of VRAM, 8 Gb is already the bare minimum, 12 Gb will do fine but not for a long time. I would go for 16 Gb.

[StaticExtasy]

FFXV ran so well for me, No VRAM issues. It had a larger open world and honestly it looked 100% better graphically to me as well. I just don't see why there is a reason this game that, graphically, looks inferior to XV runs so damn bad. Setting the bar min to 8 is just an excuse for them to not put money into an optimization pass and let the hardware brute force it but even people with higher end hardware suffer and it isn't an excuse. Everyone can benefit from optimization in this run.

[Mashiro]

Originally posted by oda.iori:

Originally posted by jarheadv12:

The last update for the game was about a month and a half ago and no it didn't help the frame rate unfortunately. The game still runs pretty bad even on good hardware

Square Enix really fell off in the last few years. I've played the whole series until FF15 (on consoles) and the last great game at least for me was FF12 IZJS. I enjoyed FF13 and 13-2, but FF15 was a very shallow experience.

I Like what i've seen in FF16, but when i tried the demo it ran like crap on a I9 12900K, 32GB Ram, RTX 3060. Frame rate at 30 FPS dropping to 12FPS during scenes (I run RE4 Remake at 4k). Square Enix ports for PC were always lame (remember the 15 FPS on FF13?) but this is beyond acceptable.

RTX3060? LOL.

[Celto]

Nope, been over a month since the last patch as well

Game still runs like ♥♥♥♥ even on higher end hardware and I dont see the devs fixing it anytime soon

[Danテディ]

Originally posted by Peludismo:

Originally posted by Danテディ:

All FF games since 13 were a big downfall.
Star Ocean is also really bad since 5.

Either go for some classics or stuff like romancing saga if you want a somewhat decent experience by SE.
And if you want a real JRPG, don't play games by Bamco or SE at all, their time in case of JRPG is more or less over (unless they decide to go back to the roots)

I liked Star Ocean 6!. I mean, it definitely isn't a masterpiece but it was a pretty solid game, it has some flaws but none that was a deal breaker.

FFXVI is kinda the same i think. Good game but not perfect. I wish that it wasn't so leaned towards action but oh well, it's not the end of the world for me.

I think that a lot of criticism around the internet is kinda nonsense, Every game is expected to generate a revolution. I mean, it's a game that served it's purpose. People need to chill out a little and just try to enjoy

Now, going back to the topic, no, the game is extremely demanding and i don't think the game will get patched to make it better. The only solution is to upgrade the PC (sadly). Just keep in mind that we'll now need a lot of VRAM, 8 Gb is already the bare minimum, 12 Gb will do fine but not for a long time. I would go for 16 Gb.

Well if you play older FF games or real JRPG's they're basically more or less a revolution.
All of them were unique and extremely well written.

The better the graphics of a game the less I expect it to be any good at least in case of RPG's. Dragons Dogma 2 was also really bad compared to the first game in case of the game itself including the story.

The problem is the most normal people just know the mainstream and never give anything they don't know any chance which is a shame. The more unknown products are most likely the ones that shine nowadays.

In case of SE: Dragon quest was kinda solid and the remake of Romancing saga 2 were also quite well designed. (the story wasn't world changing but fair enough)

Everything non FF related improves quite a lot for a while already while FF is losing more and more identity. Even on PS4/5 all FF games are flopping badly for many good reasons.

FF16 isn't bad but its lazy designed for such a giant budget.
They never bothered improving the performance nor make the game like a real FF RPG.
You basically just swap weapons, a small skill tree that isn't even a skill tree.

The combat is okay, not great but its acceptable.

The critics to this game make sense, some just overreacted with their words.
Are 15 and 16 still FF? No they're something different that not many people enjoy under this franchise.

This game is basically the quality level of a low budget studio which was 100% focused on upscaling and assets instead of the core.

Game performance isn't great either no matter what hardware you have. (Not as bad as Monster hunter wilds) but still kinda odd since it doesn't even look that stunning in case of graphics.

Can the game be fun to a certain point? I'd say yes but not until the major issues are fixed.

I think its worth playing once and never again once you finished it but still SE can do a lot better, they still prove it sometimes with their other smaller franchises.
Its kinda sad that they treat FF like this which is the franchise that made them big in the first place.

FF4-9 were made with passion and heart.
Even tho I know 10 was kinda hated by many, I still think it had its touch.
12 was a bit weaker in the story but overall still pretty solid.

I'm not against action combat, its about the core of the product itself.
I'm fine with both combat designs as long its well done.

There are tons of good JRPG out there, FF turned more into a not sure how to call it,

I want to be west but I'm not design (its a bit difficult to find a good description for it)


If they fix the performance issues I'd might recommend it on a decent sale, but for now I'd say look elsewhere there are plenty of much better RPG's at the moment

[SoftpilLoW]

They won't fix it, as long as the user reviews aren't negative.

Do you remember what SE did with Nier Automata?

Performance patch was released 4 years after the game was released. Because Game Pass version had better performance, Steam version got a huge review bomb, which led to the 4-year patch.

Even though they could have fixed it 3 months after the release.

SE just treats their customers as idiots, especially second-class PC customers.

[Danテディ]

Originally posted by ಠ_ಠ:

They won't fix it, as long as the user reviews aren't negative.

Do you remember what SE did with Nier Automata?

Performance patch was released 4 years after the game was released. Because Game Pass version had better performance, Steam version got a huge review bomb, which led to the 4-year patch.

Even though they could have fixed it 3 months after the release.

SE just treats their customers as idiots, especially second-class PC customers.

Interesting, back then I played Nier on PS4.
I barely follow a game on a platform I haven't touched the game unless its some serious scam with hidden mining or something like that.

But to be fair, Nier was a very very good game overall, but sure... a good performance is important since you want to get the full experience out of it

[SoftpilLoW]

Originally posted by Danテディ:

Originally posted by ಠ_ಠ:

They won't fix it, as long as the user reviews aren't negative.

Do you remember what SE did with Nier Automata?

Performance patch was released 4 years after the game was released. Because Game Pass version had better performance, Steam version got a huge review bomb, which led to the 4-year patch.

Even though they could have fixed it 3 months after the release.

SE just treats their customers as idiots, especially second-class PC customers.

Interesting, back then I played Nier on PS4.
I barely follow a game on a platform I haven't touched the game unless its some serious scam with hidden mining or something like that.

But to be fair, Nier was a very very good game overall, but sure... a good performance is important since you want to get the full experience out of it

I bought Nier Automata on ps4 too and it has been patch updated many times in first month.

But the PC version which I mainly play, there is no patch released except for the patch SE want to sell DLC, and there was a performance patch 4 years later because of Review Bombs.

This is where the second-class PC customers comes from.

[Berkos]

Set everything to low except vegetation (still looks good), lock to 40fps, and use specialK with its fixes, only way i can play this on 3060ti and 5800x3d. I am not hoping for any perfomance fix but this is last SE I have bought with hoping technical are issues are not "that bad". Rebirth better be flawless.

[Metro]

Originally posted by Berkos:

Set everything to low except vegetation (still looks good), lock to 40fps, and use specialK with its fixes, only way i can play this on 3060ti and 5800x3d.

Just set everything on high and enable in game frame gen, It will look and feel better than playing at lock 40fps

[Jackal]

dlss and locking at 60 and its fine,

[Berkos]

Originally posted by Metro:

Originally posted by Berkos:

Set everything to low except vegetation (still looks good), lock to 40fps, and use specialK with its fixes, only way i can play this on 3060ti and 5800x3d.

Just set everything on high and enable in game frame gen, It will look and feel better than playing at lock 40fps

Yeah I did that for first 25 hours, i guess my 3060ti cant keep up because I had wild framepacing issues. Also I like motion blur for some reson :)