Is this a Final Fantasy game anymore?

[fffreakyyy]

This is the first Final Fantasy game that doesn't feel like Final Fantasy game it's just called Final Fantasy It's kind of missing the supreme quality and vibes of FF games they are showing blood and gore and sexual scenes in your face this time around like never before in any FF game I don't know how I feel about it it's kinda weird for FF game the only one thing I like is the battle system and action seems so good and fun.

[Xengre]

What do you mean "doesn't feel like Final Fantasy" and "Is this a Final Fantasy game anymore"?

Fictional world, typically featuring fantasy themes? Check.
Substantial story and sizeable cast telling some type of adventure/saga? Check.
Magic and summons? Check.
Great music? Check.
Romance? Check.

Etc. etc.

No idea how blood and gore aren't Final Fantasy. Most FF games were on much older weaker hardware and couldn't show such things in detail, nor was it really necessary but blood isn't new (like Squall's intro cutscene as an example), or gore (FF7 Aerith's death, barrett losing hand, technological limitations of course... Type -0 pretty much everyone dying... and so forth). No idea about the sexual scenes since I've not played it but minor suggestive content isn't that big of a deal. Prior FF games have kissing, cradling, etc. This appears to be a more mature theme depiction like FF8 compared to some other entries, especially with more advanced hardware/graphics.

[Gibbs]

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

[fffreakyyy]

Publicado originalmente por Xengre:

What do you mean "doesn't feel like Final Fantasy" and "Is this a Final Fantasy game anymore"?

Fictional world, typically featuring fantasy themes? Check.
Substantial story and sizeable cast telling some type of adventure/saga? Check.
Magic and summons? Check.
Great music? Check.
Romance? Check.

Etc. etc.

No idea how blood and gore aren't Final Fantasy. Most FF games were on much older weaker hardware and couldn't show such things in detail, nor was it really necessary but blood isn't new (like Squall's intro cutscene as an example), or gore (FF7 Aerith's death, barrett losing hand, technological limitations of course... Type -0 pretty much everyone dying... and so forth). No idea about the sexual scenes since I've not played it but minor suggestive content isn't that big of a deal. Prior FF games have kissing, cradling, etc. This appears to be a more mature theme depiction like FF8 compared to some other entries, especially with more advanced hardware/graphics.

Cool now go and give it a try, also blood and gore has nothing to do with hardware limitations it's been there since the 90s we all know Japan they don't like blood and gore in their games generally and this is not just any game it's FF too.

[REALROBLAW]

It's not the same anymore because they make the characters turn in to the "summons". Also the ending is really terrible that it pissed me off.

[fffreakyyy]

Publicado originalmente por Gibbs:

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

Devil may cry 6 could work too as a title.

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por Gibbs:

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

sums it up.

i see a lot of people saying this isn't FF, to which im always confused, cause its just more of the same as they have done a dozen times now.

[fffreakyyy]

Publicado originalmente por zero:

Publicado originalmente por Gibbs:

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

sums it up.

i see a lot of people saying this isn't FF, to which im always confused, cause its just more of the same as they have done a dozen times now.

I have been playing FF games since the 90s this one specifically is way different sure you get some vibes from it as FF game but it's not consistent it's way below the FF games standards that we used too and this is a main title in the series!

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por freakyyy:

Publicado originalmente por zero:

sums it up.

i see a lot of people saying this isn't FF, to which im always confused, cause its just more of the same as they have done a dozen times now.

I have been playing FF games since the 90s this one specifically is way different sure you get some vibes from it as FF game but it's not consistent it's way below the FF games standards that we used too and this is a main title in the series!

that is what happens when 3 decades of innovation happens yes, game improve with time.

what exactly is "not consistent and below the ff game standards" cause saying that by itself is a non starter; what exactly do you specifically consider to call it a ff game or not?

[Irae]

appreciate it for what it is

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por Irae:

appreciate it for what it is

sums it up, ff has always had a pretty varied story, setting and themes. it mixes them up pretty frequently, from high fantasy to pseudo steampunk.

[fffreakyyy]

Publicado originalmente por zero:

Publicado originalmente por Irae:

appreciate it for what it is

sums it up, ff has always had a pretty varied story, setting and themes. it mixes them up pretty frequently, from high fantasy to pseudo steampunk.

Publicado originalmente por Irae:

appreciate it for what it is

The game is good I'm not saying it's bad I enjoyed the demo I'm defiantly going to buy it but what I'm saying is that it's missing a lot of that special FF game vibes that we used to in previous games it feels like a downgrade for example the animations in FFXV compared to FFXVI the overall quality of FFXV is on another level compared to FFXVI.

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por freakyyy:

Publicado originalmente por zero:

sums it up, ff has always had a pretty varied story, setting and themes. it mixes them up pretty frequently, from high fantasy to pseudo steampunk.

Publicado originalmente por Irae:

appreciate it for what it is

The game is good I'm not saying it's bad I enjoyed the demo I'm defiantly going to buy it but what I'm saying is that it's missing a lot of that special FF game vibes that we used to in previous games it feels like a downgrade for example the animations in FFXV compared to FFXVI the overall quality of FFXV is on another level compared to FFXVI.

what are those vibes?

cause if its about animations, i feel using 15 is a bit lackluster with how jittery they can get on slopes, and a lot of their attacks were very simple swings. also: not really a ff thing, thats just a critique about animations, which is fair even i disagree, but doesn't really tell us what these "FF" vibes are.

[Haseo8]

Publicado originalmente por freakyyy:

Publicado originalmente por Gibbs:

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

Devil may cry 6 could work too as a title.

Not really, doesn't feel like a devil may cry. Where's Dante, Nero, where are the Demons, the over the top humor, the stylish comboes, where are my guns?

[fffreakyyy]

Publicado originalmente por zero:

Publicado originalmente por freakyyy:

The game is good I'm not saying it's bad I enjoyed the demo I'm defiantly going to buy it but what I'm saying is that it's missing a lot of that special FF game vibes that we used to in previous games it feels like a downgrade for example the animations in FFXV compared to FFXVI the overall quality of FFXV is on another level compared to FFXVI.

what are those vibes?

cause if its about animations, i feel using 15 is a bit lackluster with how jittery they can get on slopes, and a lot of their attacks were very simple swings. also: not really a ff thing, thats just a critique about animations, which is fair even i disagree, but doesn't really tell us what these "FF" vibes are.

It's kind of if you know you know thing.

[zero]

Publicado originalmente por freakyyy:

Publicado originalmente por zero:

what are those vibes?

cause if its about animations, i feel using 15 is a bit lackluster with how jittery they can get on slopes, and a lot of their attacks were very simple swings. also: not really a ff thing, thats just a critique about animations, which is fair even i disagree, but doesn't really tell us what these "FF" vibes are.

It's kind of if you know you know thing.

which ultimately just means there is nothing concrete to it to work on for oyu, which is fine, your are entitled to your opinion.

but the objective fact of the matter is that it is a final fantasy game, like every other final fantasy game has been, no matter how good or bad they have been, even 11 lol.

final fantasy is, ultimately, a very generic fantasy game series, it tries new things in every games and has no real set setting or concept, it only has commonly use traits.

crystals, summons, chocobos, sure, but thats about it, and even then, not always a thing.

sometimes turn based, sometimes real time, sometimes an mmo, but always still ff.

so i guess to go back to the beginning:

Publicado originalmente por Gibbs:

Yep, it's a Final Fantasy game.

Hint: You can tell because it's in the title.

unless you can genuinely state what exactly makes it not a FF game beyond just "feels wrong"

cause to me, i have always considered final fantasy games simply an encapsulated rpg in which the story starts and finished within the same game, that likes to play with its fantasy concepts and takes itself seriously within its mainline series.

and to that, it has shown to be just that to me.