Renne's past (SPOILER)

[giga-ganon]

obviously spoiler!

So, didn't except to see this kind of subject aborded in a pretty light JRPG like this one! First they implied that the hawk guys intended to ♥♥♥♥ Karin before killing... pretty dark... then we hear about renne's past... how her parents left her with people who did horrible thing to her....

it's not said what they were doing directly, but it's was pretty obvious to me... i mean i don't think you end up broken like her just with child labor for exemple! Then i watched the sora no kiseki anime, and it was clear what she's gone through... i feel even more sorry for her now

Anyway, it's very dark and it's an other reason why i love this game so much, so full of details, it's realist in a way, you don't expect that with a war, nothing wrong is going to happen! the characters are naturals and we care about them, they all have their past and a reason for doing what they do! The dialogue are great too!

for those who did the other kiseki games, do they have dark story moment like this too?

(and sorry for my english)

[Don Rumata En Regalia]

The Hamel raiders were brigand Jaegers, not the Erebonian war hawks who later were prosecuted. But yeah, Renne, as Joshua himself says, wasn't involved with Hamel yet still had a worse childhood than him. He's quick to realize his emotional weakness after having gone through all this; Renne, though, has toughed out numerous atrocities yet seems just as capable of leaving Ouroboros if and when the right stimulus comes. More about her's developed in 3rd.

[ladynadiad]

The 3rd does when it actually gets into the details of Renne's backstory. She really glossed over it and censored it. It's even worse than she told and even worse than what was hinted at for Karin.

The 3rd also overall has some rather dark moments. Kevin's backstory is pretty full of them, him accidentally killing some people for example.

[omgfloofy]

Originally posted by ladynadiad:

The 3rd also overall has some rather dark moments. Kevin's backstory is pretty full of them, him accidentally killing some people for example.

3rd spoilers:
I wouldn't say 'accidentally' for most of the cases. There's really only one accidental death that kind of sends him on a horrible out-of-control spiral of self-loathing. He's basically killing them to punish them for their sins, because he, himself, can't be punished for his own sins. So, he's pretty much taking it out on others who equally deserve the punishment, with the exception of one other that comes up in his backstory.

Originally posted by giga-ganon:

for those who did the other kiseki games, do they have dark story moment like this too?

And since this was asked, another one stands out to me, though not as much as the ones mentioned already:

Ao no Kiseki Spoilers (Though I'm being vague in them regardless, omitting name, gender, etc etc):
There's a character in Ao no Kiseki who, in their past, has become a 'voice of god' in a sense, for their small village. This character discovers the source of the voice that they've been hearing and it's harming the people in their village. So with the assistance of others, this character destroys that source, and despite their lives being saved by it, the villagers turn on this character and have them rejected from their community, making them lose everything they've known.

[articulate]

Karin got off lucky in a sense. Since Löwe mentioned that there are things even he won't recount, so it's safe to say Hamel is basically fictionalised-Nanjing. Though the circumstances were different; i.e. Hamel was a pretext for invasion and Nanjing was pillaged.

As for Renne, one can only speculate having not played the 3rd, but I'm guessing she got Hamel-ed and probably Unit 731-ed.

It is dark, I was surprised too. But then again, the developers do hail from the country that perpetrated numerous atrocities, so they kind of have the history and backstory all laid in.

Of course, Calvard wouldn't have done it, had to be Germa....*cough*. Erebonia sorry.

[Adunsavior]

Originally posted by articulate?:

Karin got off lucky in a sense. Since Löwe mentioned that there are things even he won't recount, so it's safe to say Hamel is basically fictionalised-Nanjing. Though the circumstances were different; i.e. Hamel was a pretext for invasion and Nanjing was pillaged.

As for Renne, one can only speculate having not played the 3rd, but I'm guessing she got Hamel-ed and probably Unit 731-ed.

It is dark, I was surprised too. But then again, the developers do hail from the country that perpetrated numerous atrocities, so they kind of have the history and backstory all laid in.

Of course, Calvard wouldn't have done it, had to be Germa....*cough*. Erebonia sorry.

I doubt you can call Karin lucky. Loewe was just seconds away, if Joshua did to shoot the jaeger, Loewe would have literally caught the jaeger with his pants down, and both of them would have come out relatively unharmed. Relatively.

Maybe that's why Joshua was beating himself up about before Weissmann showed up. If he had just done nothing, then Loewe could have killed the Kaeger from behind, and Karin would still be alive.

[razisgosu]

If you're interested in Renne's past, a good portion of it gets explained in 3rd. Google Star Door #15 (warning spoilers and potential triggers) and one of the top results is a blog post with the entire event translated. From what I've heard this doesn't even explain everything wrong with Renne's past and it's even worse than that event suggests. Going off what I've read on the XSEED forums you don't get the full details on Renne until Ao or Zero, one of the two.

[RegalStar]

As far as I know, her past is nothing like what you think it is, yet it is even more horrifying.

[razisgosu]

Originally posted by RegalStar:

As far as I know, her past is nothing like what you think it is, yet it is even more horrifying.

Honestly, I'm interested. That's literally what I've seen everyone say, but that's all anyone ever says.

[LongTimeNoSiege]

Originally posted by razisgosu:

If you're interested in Renne's past, a good portion of it gets explained in 3rd. Google Star Door #15 (warning spoilers and potential triggers) and one of the top results is a blog post with the entire event translated. From what I've heard this doesn't even explain everything wrong with Renne's past and it's even worse than that event suggests. Going off what I've read on the XSEED forums you don't get the full details on Renne until Ao or Zero, one of the two.

The details of what specifically happened to her are expouned on in The 3rd, and yes, it's a lot more heinous than was hinted at in SC, especially once you fully understand the underlying connotations of the scene. The 3rd also shows how she was neural linked with Pater-Mater. Zero explains some of the reasons behind what happened to her and offers a conclusion to her story. Renne only has a brief cameo in Ao no Kiseki.

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