Hard is...hard

[Asura]

Hard is so hard i tried nightmare couldn't beat kurt in the sewers. Now i switched to hard i can't beat jaeger kurt 2.0! I can't even beat him when i nearly killed him he healed 1/3 of his hp and wiped out my party any strategies to help? (im not new btw i beat FC) XD

[pibedetorres]

I'm just so happy I picked Normal on my first playthrough, it's challenging to me but not to the point of driving me crazy XD

All I can advice is use clock up and forte as soon as you can (you should be able to have clock up on both characters and forte on one) and get ready to use EP charge every few turns, because with so little EP you will need it a lot.

[nonamen]

Well like how its always been said, nightmare is well uhm nightmare hehehe.Maybe just keep your distance and heal and wish you get luck to attack first.

[Febox]

yes, the prologue on hard is very difficult and frustrating, you can only wait for a good AI routine and pray. That said, chapter 1 is much more fair and doable.

[myhr2]

Got past the Prologue in Hard this morning, but boy it took me some time. The third Jaeger was really though, be here are some tips I got here and there that helped a lot :

- first, you can grind a little by killing the Shining Poms in the Wood. I got both Anelace and Estelle to level 43 that way, and it does help (a little...maybe...)

- do not specialize Estelle and Anelace, make sure they both can take some punishement., the reason being...

- get Al Tear on a character (Estelle in my case), you only need two blue quartz to do so. Make sure to equip Cast also. Then, in the Tactical menu, regroup Anelace and Estelle in one of the furthest corner of the checkerboard. As soon as the battle begin, make them flee in a corner, and stick together. That way, the Jaeger cannot push them apart, and you can sometimes "gain" a turn by healing both characters in one action, very very usefull.

- as for Craft uses, I filled both meters of course, and ended up using Estelle's Barrage at the beginning of the fight, then recasting it as soon as she reached 100. Never ever use Anelace S-craft, you'll need her AT delay.

- use your items. Tear and Al Tear can only heal for 1000, if you see that you won't be able to heal in time, use one of your precious Balm that heals for 2000.

- pray Aidoss, because even with all this, the Jaeger can still two-shot you whenever he feels like it, with some nasty unlucky combo like Charge+Charge.

[LayHon]

I'm exactly at this point in the game, and i was wondering the same thing ... Am i the problem and i truly suck despite my experience or is the game REALLY hard and unfair ? Welp ... I guess i'll keep trying, but when i see the hp pool of the third jaeger and the amount of damage i deal ... Ugh ...

[Febox]

Originally posted by Janna:

I'm exactly at this point in the game, and i was wondering the same thing ... Am i the problem and i truly suck despite my experience or is the game REALLY hard and unfair ? Welp ... I guess i'll keep trying, but when i see the hp pool of the third jaeger and the amount of damage i deal ... Ugh ...

no, that fight in hard is unfair, but myhr2's advices are great. another thing, the "revive" necklaces saved my fight and allowed me to beat the guy, remember to use 'em.

[LayHon]

I have no clue how it's even possible to beat that guy in nightmare, wtf ... I've died 4 times already, despite the "enemies become weaker if you can't win" thingie, he still 2 shots me ...
Bleh ...

[sorathecrow]

Even normal was somewhat challenging. Definitely gonna wait until NG+ to do higher difficulties.

[LayHon]

I also have no idea where i can find those enemies you used to climb (the shining poms), i only get 1 or 2 xp points in the wood D:

[Nonexistinghero]

I beat him without Al Tear and without Earth Guard on hard. Just had items and basic tier 1 spells. And no puppets used. Only took me 2 tries to win at level 41. Still was very hard though, 30 minute battle.

[Asura]

Originally posted by myhr2:

Got past the Prologue in Hard this morning, but boy it took me some time. The third Jaeger was really though, be here are some tips I got here and there that helped a lot :

- first, you can grind a little by killing the Shining Poms in the Wood. I got both Anelace and Estelle to level 43 that way, and it does help (a little...maybe...)

- do not specialize Estelle and Anelace, make sure they both can take some punishement., the reason being...

- get Al Tear on a character (Estelle in my case), you only need two blue quartz to do so. Make sure to equip Cast also. Then, in the Tactical menu, regroup Anelace and Estelle in one of the furthest corner of the checkerboard. As soon as the battle begin, make them flee in a corner, and stick together. That way, the Jaeger cannot push them apart, and you can sometimes "gain" a turn by healing both characters in one action, very very usefull.

- as for Craft uses, I filled both meters of course, and ended up using Estelle's Barrage at the beginning of the fight, then recasting it as soon as she reached 100. Never ever use Anelace S-craft, you'll need her AT delay.

- use your items. Tear and Al Tear can only heal for 1000, if you see that you won't be able to heal in time, use one of your precious Balm that heals for 2000.

- pray Aidoss, because even with all this, the Jaeger can still two-shot you whenever he feels like it, with some nasty unlucky combo like Charge+Charge.

This was some good advice ty for that but still can't prevent him from healing ):

[Zaratus]

Save the S-Crafts until his HP is low enough to where he starts healing, hit them both to finish him off. Maybe, hurt him until he heals. Have both of them use an art, and hammer your S-Breaks after your attacks but before he starts his next turn and heals again.

[Asura]

Originally posted by Zaratus:

Save the S-Crafts until his HP is low enough to where he starts healing, hit them both to finish him off. Maybe, hurt him until he heals. Have both of them use an art, and hammer your S-Breaks after your attacks but before he starts his next turn and heals again.

already beat him like this thanks though ;D he was tough ima grind from here on out to be able to win.

[HunterRassius]

Still can't figure out what the big deal is with everyone thinking that last Jaeger is somehow super duper difficult on Hard. I mean yea I can understand him catching you off guard when you first fight him sure but after that you formulate a sound plan and proceed to slowly whittle him down.

Hard difficulty is plenty doable. Might be a smidge harder if you don't have the Luck quartz but it still shouldn't be too bad if you keep your cool and play your cards right.

[Febox]

Originally posted by HunterRassius:

Still can't figure out what the big deal is with everyone thinking that last Jaeger is somehow super duper difficult on Hard. I mean yea I can understand him catching you off guard when you first fight him sure but after that you formulate a sound plan and proceed to slowly whittle him down.

Hard difficulty is plenty doable. Might be a smidge harder if you don't have the Luck quartz but it still shouldn't be too bad if you keep your cool and play your cards right.

sometimes (in my experience, almost always) he decides to do 2-3 or even 4 attack in a row, and keeps spamming heal arts when he's <50% hp. But I agree, except for that battle I'm finding the hard difficult doable and fair, especially when you get new people in the party or new equipment in chapter 1.