The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC

The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC

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Sewer56 Dec 12, 2015 @ 10:13am
The Trails SC Cutting Room Floor Thread + Digging into the PSP version.
This may or may not provoke discussion and speculation, as you may know many games have content never meant to be seen by anybody but the developers — or even meant for everybody, but cut due to time/budget constraints as things go with regards to game development.

In fact it is very rare to have games both now and in the past without cut content as developers set plans to release on certain dates - seems that (I've looked for it) this image (No.1 below) hasn't been unearthed yet so I thought I'd share it.

Would you give a stab at saying that this was potentially a cut character? Seeing that it appears somewhat complete with even the character icon beside stats etc.?


Note: These are from the PSP release - I may do it for the PC version once I acquire it (pls go on sale no I won't shamelessly pirate it, these devs deserve much more love than that ). I'll update this thread if I find some fun stuff inside, maybe.

ALSO THERE'S A HUGE LOAD OF FC LEFTOVER FILES :O

1. The Leftover Screenshot

Captain Amalthea and Leonhardt the Sword Emperor somewhere... :O ?

Original image (256x256 - OUCH THE RESOLUTION!) - http://i.imgur.com/uayjIxk.png
Resized and resampled for "better" (not really) viewing - http://i.imgur.com/aENj9dS.png

The closest thing I know of that resembles anything of this sort is one of Kevin's crafts in 3rd:
https://youtu.be/mzk8LWJOk_8?t=1075 (17:55).

Edit:
Some things to note:

Loewe is having a double turn.
The amount of EP for Amalthea is a perfect 0.
The character HP is ONLY 1702.

If curious then the image file is called 'SCREEN'.

2. Character Selection Dialogues

http://pastebin.com/ivXX3Qvf

So what's interesting about these? Well, apart from that one line with text that cannot be parsed (presumably Japanese) it has the text for Estelle and Joshua - which you DON'T get to see in the game.

3. 'DebugMode' Difficulty

http://i.imgur.com/mT8nwv0.png

4. I assume this one's unused - it's in Japanese.

http://i.imgur.com/JIbMNgl.png

These are from when Estelle recalls her memories of Joshua - the rest I've uploaded here:
http://imgur.com/a/bkHlN

5. Debug Option - FC Style
http://i.imgur.com/XTWKvOQ.png


???Can someone confirm where these are used? I can't recall seeing these???

http://imgur.com/a/AXGb8

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Extra Content


Character Profiles
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Character profiles: http://imgur.com/a/362Hi
Feel free to make worthy wallpapers of these if you can redraw them.
The PC version probably has the full images, these are cut.

List of Foods
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List of foods: http://pastebin.com/Wd5MxGCZ
Note: (It took a lot of pain and effort to remove all the formatting from this - there may be 1/2 errors in descriptions where I miss a letter etc.)

Something Fishy
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Some fish and fish related descriptions, no names of fish/rods etc. so I just removed all the formatting and non alphanumeric letters - made new lines in between each sentence for easier readability: http://pastebin.com/XfxYNkBL

Item List
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Item list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hj60pIxWwRbaaRYFn0lvQHNg4IaP2b93WO21effeymM/edit?usp=sharing

(If you have a better solution for public edits than Google Docs please give feedback)
(Note: You'll experience lag when you'll add the first letter/remove 1st line for a few seconds because you'll need to load this huge document - after 15 seconds you'll be fine and editing will be smooth - changes on drive autosave so don't worry about that - just sort out the lines).

I've done a bit of it, there is no way though that I'm gonna deformat it all myself - I done a bit, I've made this editable to anyone on the web so if you want the data all arranged and clean feel free to help out.

Copy of original submit: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Yyw5SdPJ

Note: These are the PSP version ones, there may be slight differences - for example 'Buzzer' (PC) is known as 'Surprise Spell'.
Note 2: Also appears to have some items from FC such as Major Klaus' letter.

List of 'Magic'
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List of 'magic': https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1ETt4ABW8QzV0NuZjc3dnVkS3c/view

I was originally gonna say that you'll hate me for this but maybe not, this one is much shorter, it appears to contain all player usable Arts, Crafts and S-Crafts. I took a small look through and found 'Poison Spray' but without description (and Petryfying Barrage). Amalthea may have originally been playable in the first place :O

Note: I ran some very heavy automated formatting removal script I made, there's the odd possiblity a letter or a sign may be missing in some of these (though I checked thoroughly and there shouldn't be)

Stuff that sticks out:

Divided : Divide into two bodies with 1/2 HP.
Not a user usable craft yet it has a description? Maybe it was originally usable?

Absorb
Poison Spray
Petrifying Barrage
These 3 are listed in the craft section (Poison Spray is Amalthea's craft, Absorb is an orbment and her craft and... Petryfying barrage one of her moves of course)

Character IDs?/Internal name/reference list
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t_name (Presumably internal name list) : http://pastebin.com/aLKqXZKr

By internal name list I mean what characters are internally defined as, for instance there are multiple Joshua(s), Estelle(s) e.g. Hot Spring Estelle. Weissman is not defined but Professor Alba is... Hmm. Loewe and Lt.Lorence are separate etc...

Didn't filter anything out here as the flags or prefixes may be important, this is the original file.

World Locations
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World locations (t_world2._dt) : http://pastebin.com/8xEgPwyv
Note: Lhotse Waterway is presumably Air-Letten.

Monster 'Notes' (The Monster Guide V2!)
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Monster Notes: http://pastebin.com/sZPJ6BNh
This one will (if you want) be awful to deformat into readable format, it's interesting - it includes entries not present in the monster guide and some only seen in game - also lists monster attacks, just control+F someone and look before :^)

Freezing Barrage, Petrifying Barrage & Paralyzing Barrage appear to be Kanone's moves, seeing it previously along user usable crafts suggests very heavily she was playable at one point.

Some character descriptions such as: "Joshua Controlled by Weissmann, this Fang has been bared at Estelle." suggest that you originally actually had to properly fight Joshua in the game, rather than get just 1 hit by S-Break.

I should look around this and many other files in depth more, interesting stuff: 'Mueller In the PSP version he'll even join in SC'

The file with this is called 'monsnote', it's pretty much a Monster Guide V2, it has not only monsters not present in the guide (Joshua under Weissman control) with descriptions etc. but also all their moves.

PSP BGM Table
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Here's the BGM table: http://pastebin.com/MYEDchz9
Why am I posting this? It not only shows how the game loops the tracks, sometimes
picks off from outside the beginning but also gives you the names of the tracks.

These are very likely to align with what's inside the BGM folder on the PC version.

But of course you're only there to see track 6550, am I right?
Who doesn't love track 6550? Sliever is Silver Will

The names are somewhat very interesting: Weissman is referred to as Wiseman. Hamel as Harmel...

Character Battle Icon Shenanigans
SC Contains some remaining unused bloat of FC as we know it but I'll still point out some differences.

-There are 3 icons for Loewe, one 'Regular' ,one identical but with a slightly red tone (and red eye) and one from another angle.

-Leftover icon for Lorence.

-2 Icons for Amalthea / Kanone - one slightly more to the left with her badge on the helmet other is without badge.

-Some duplicates such as Black Clad soldiers or regular Army men.

-There's 3 regular Weissman icons if not more.

-There's an icon for Prof. Russell - he is never seen in battle in either games. (i.e. It's unused)

Mouse Cursors
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I also found the mouse cursor sprites.... In the PSP version :O
And autosave text.

They're in my other thread with the Windows cursors.
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Really Subtle Falcom *claps*

'Joshua Astray' before reuniting w/ Estelle.
Joshua Bright after reuniting.
Joshua Bright once the stigma is broken. (Can't believe I've not noticed the difference in the menus in game)

http://imgur.com/a/ssNyd

More subtleness:

Falcom scares me with their subtleness.

Joshua pre-Estelle (before reuniting).
And Joshua post-Estelle.
http://imgur.com/a/m5skF

Notice how subtle, he picks up a slight smile and raises eyebrows.

So Kanone was once playable during development? Yes or no?
I cannot say no really at this point.

- Her crafts appear within 'Magic' which contains all user executable Arts and Crafts. (On the contrary they appear to be the only ones without a description in the file)
- She appears in a screenshot as playable which contains an S-Craft concept (Presumably - file is stored in same folder as S-Craft sprite sheets).
- I also found the head symbol icons, and one indeed exists for her. (All the other ones available are of actual playable characters).
http://i.imgur.com/cAxWFby.png

I can say at this point that if you figure out Character ID memory pointer location then you MIGHT be able to get her via memory editing.

EDIT: There's MEMORY ADDRESSES for her stats :O Game only stores stats of playable chars - also Alan Richard seems to have those too.

EDIT 2: PLAYABLE! And so is Richard. You cannot enter battle with Amalthea (broken), Richard has no crafts and is "unusable" in PSP version too.

And thus concludes Disc 1
Oh wait? You thought that's all? Not only did I not post some things but that's only one disc :^).
Last edited by Sewer56; Dec 13, 2015 @ 7:38am
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rzhao01 Dec 12, 2015 @ 7:50pm 
Cool stuff! Especially playable Richard/Amalthea - their story kinda ended abruptly (though maybe 3rd picks it back up again).

Divided is used by the jellyfish monsters in Ruan. Strange that it has a description.

I can gift you a copy of the steam version if you want it.
Sewer56 Dec 12, 2015 @ 8:42pm 
Originally posted by rzhao01:
Cool stuff! Especially playable Richard/Amalthea - their story kinda ended abruptly (though maybe 3rd picks it back up again).

Divided is used by the jellyfish monsters in Ruan. Strange that it has a description.

I can gift you a copy of the steam version if you want it.

No it's fine - I wanna buy it myself :P

I also uh did something else too... Not playable though...

Edit:
Amalthea is "playable" - she actually appears to have menu art but battle will not begin if you go on an enemy.
Richard has an S-Craft :O

Amalthea uses guns (Olivier)
Richard blased (Anelace/Kloe)

Loewe uses, uh doesn't work.

Edit: I'd actually really appreciate the PC version, though I still insist that you should do what you want with it - I'd appreciate the gift though it's your choice :^)
Last edited by Sewer56; Dec 13, 2015 @ 6:44am
Sewer56 Dec 12, 2015 @ 9:50pm 
Anelace and Kurt are good character swaps for into story - they are 'complete' characters (not broken/incomplete), Richard only lacks crafts on other hand. :^)

One slightly sad thing (unless I didn't find them properly - character slots 1+2 are truly hardlocked, you can't remove Estelle/Joshua) (unless my game of bingo was wrong and I just found the wrong addresses).

Edit: What if I take Anelace + Kurt to Loewe and win? Crash?
Last edited by Sewer56; Dec 12, 2015 @ 9:51pm
Terra Dec 12, 2015 @ 11:05pm 
Edit: What if I take Anelace + Kurt to Loewe and win? Crash?

Depends on how the game is coded.

Either you'll get no dialogue for them and it'll skip straight to the "general" lines, or it'll crash depending on how the dialogue is coded.
Terra Dec 12, 2015 @ 11:14pm 
Thinking about it, the former is far more likely. It'd be way easier to just call the reference ID of your third party member, throw that into a conditional, and then repeat for the reference ID of your fourth party member.

Only reason it could crash is if they did something esoteric and weird.
Sewer56 Dec 13, 2015 @ 6:28am 
Anelace <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGc4XQNHOpY&feature=youtu.be

Tried getting all crafts done in 1 recording, was stupid not to apply Gladiator Belt and wasted a lot of time.

This is basically your CH8 sidequest Anelace.

Edit: But who needs Anelace when you got this, am I right?
http://i.imgur.com/CWWRyi5.png
Last edited by Sewer56; Dec 13, 2015 @ 6:44am
Sewer56 Dec 13, 2015 @ 3:22pm 
"Anelace please give back Joshua" -Estelle

!
http://i.imgur.com/3nAAWlw.jpg
Last edited by Sewer56; Dec 13, 2015 @ 3:48pm
Sewer56 Dec 13, 2015 @ 3:48pm 
Alan Richard S-Craft:
https://youtu.be/JVaH4FNtp98

(Ignore the fact there's no arts - I didn't equip him).
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