Are Gladiator Headband and Gladiator Belt worth using late-game? (spoilers)

[dynastystar]

I really like the extra CP for Joshua but its becoming harder to justify them on him. I just got a Soul Orb from fighting an optional boss which feels like it'd be insanely useful on Joshua. Thoughts?

[Hagen2900]

It depends on the fight but typically they are worth it. You also only get 4 of the Orb items. There are 4 more accessory slots for stuff like the Gladiator Belt. For instance you could put the Soul Orb on a support and equip Joshua with the Power Orb + Gladiator item.

[Hugoos]

I think I ended up using all the gladiator items on Joshua because I like to spam S-Crafts on normal difficulty. Never was a problem for me except for one late-game boss, but if you want to min-max I'm sure it's better to use different equipment.

[Hat8]

They make characters like Agate and Joshua pretty powerful.

[dynastystar]

引用自 Matt66：

They make characters like Agate and Joshua pretty powerful.

I don't like it on Agate since he already has an ability that gives him 150 CP(you just gotta make sure that he's health enough to live through it and until you can heal him back up which Earth Guard does help to give time).

[Hat8]

引用自 dynastystar：

引用自 Matt66：

They make characters like Agate and Joshua pretty powerful.

I don't like it on Agate since he already has an ability that gives him 150 CP(you just gotta make sure that he's health enough to live through it and until you can heal him back up which Earth Guard does help to give time).

Combined with that ability he can easily spam 200 CP attacks.

[dynastystar]

引用自 Matt66：

引用自 dynastystar：

I don't like it on Agate since he already has an ability that gives him 150 CP(you just gotta make sure that he's health enough to live through it and until you can heal him back up which Earth Guard does help to give time).

Combined with that ability he can easily spam 200 CP attacks.

He pretty much can already, by the time you get him healed back up and an Earth Guard back on him, he's almost at full CP anyways.

[Oguzhan]

I personally think they are worth keeping around. Protection against status aliments is not really all that worth it, unless the boss has TONS of aliments or is really fast with his attacks, since you have earth wall .

Especially on nightmare mode since the dmg you take is higher meaning gladiator belt will most likely fill around 70 CP for taking high dmg. The belt is amazing on Kloe and Kevin since they have the best S-Crafts. I also like giving belt to Joshua and Estelle since they can do a lot of dmg. Especially on Estelle I like it cause I usually have her as support character in late game. So being able use her S-Craft here and there speeds the fight.

[yoship]

To give a slightly different view, I used (at normal difficulty) Gladiator headband and belt *before* boss fights in late game. Just make sure that you have a full CP meter before meeting a boss. The headband and belt help to get to this level while fighting pre-boss monsters in dungeons.

For boss fights, there can be more pressing considerations depending on boss- at least one slot goes for things that offer stat boost plus some sort of status protection- like for mages, at least a crimson eye or buzzer. For warriors, things like tiger heart, power orb are more useful during a boss fight due to higher strength boosts. For CP during battle, one can prepare recipes containing 'acerbic tomato' ... tomatrio sandwiches, etc. For even tougher boss battles, zeram powders are the best friends.

[dynastystar]

引用自 oguz.gungor96：

I personally think they are worth keeping around. Protection against status aliments is not really all that worth it, unless the boss has TONS of aliments or is really fast with his attacks, since you have earth wall .

Especially on nightmare mode since the dmg you take is higher meaning gladiator belt will most likely fill around 70 CP for taking high dmg. The belt is amazing on Kloe and Kevin since they have the best S-Crafts. I also like giving belt to Joshua and Estelle since they can do a lot of dmg. Especially on Estelle I like it cause I usually have her as support character in late game. So being able use her S-Craft here and there speeds the fight.

really? They have the best S-crafts? I disliked their S-crafts the most.

[Hagen2900]

That's a difficulty level thing. On Nightmare Grail Sphere is the best S-Craft in the game by a lot. Lichtkreis is not nearly as good but it is the second best.

[Oguzhan]

引用自 dynastystar：

引用自 oguz.gungor96：

I personally think they are worth keeping around. Protection against status aliments is not really all that worth it, unless the boss has TONS of aliments or is really fast with his attacks, since you have earth wall .

Especially on nightmare mode since the dmg you take is higher meaning gladiator belt will most likely fill around 70 CP for taking high dmg. The belt is amazing on Kloe and Kevin since they have the best S-Crafts. I also like giving belt to Joshua and Estelle since they can do a lot of dmg. Especially on Estelle I like it cause I usually have her as support character in late game. So being able use her S-Craft here and there speeds the fight.

really? They have the best S-crafts? I disliked their S-crafts the most.

Lemme put it this way. Thanks to Kevin's S-Craft you get 2 turns to set your party in battle ( or more depending of what attacks the enemy is using). Speed them up , buff their strenght etc. etc. After that you pretty much won the fight. Since whenever earth wall wears out you can place it on again AND if somehow by chance the enemy gets a turn where you have no earth wall on , you can just use Kevin's S-Craft again for instant protection.

Basicaly you are invincible. Every other S-Craft is basicaly an attack which is cool and all but you already have high damaging attacks as is , infact in the 3rd game you don't want to use S-Crafts since basic crafts g do more dmg in the long run for less cost.

[dynastystar]

引用自 Hagen2900：

That's a difficulty level thing. On Nightmare Grail Sphere is the best S-Craft in the game by a lot. Lichtkreis is not nearly as good but it is the second best.

well I'm playing on Normal as this was my first time through.

[xXiaoDrag0n]

引用自 dynastystar：

well I'm playing on Normal as this was my first time through.

For Hard and below, Kloe's Litchkreis and Kevin's Grail Sphere isn't useful, but on Nightmare, that's on a whole another level.

[xXiaoDrag0n]

引用自 Hagen2900：

That's a difficulty level thing. On Nightmare Grail Sphere is the best S-Craft in the game by a lot. Lichtkreis is not nearly as good but it is the second best.

Key number 3 and 4 are your best friends in SC Nightmare, for the 3rd Nightmare, it should be number 1.

[Ghaleon]

I found the belt is, and the headband isn't.. if I got it right.. the belt gets cp per turn, and the headband multiplies what you get per hit right? Maybe the latter one is worth it if you do something to maximize its use but I kinda played these games semi-casually.