Livelock
Nyu Sep 6, 2016 @ 5:12am
Smooth mouse / mouse lag
Hi,

i have an issue with mouse on this game.
When a move my mouse there's a mouse lag and the cursor move around 1 sec after, so i cant really play.

I tried a lot of things, i desactivate some windows proprety, i tried to change a lot of video proprety in the game.
The only things that have any effect is to put the game in a lower definition and have the lowest graphics quality. It isn't solve the problem it is just less significant and help me to play a little.
It's not a hardware problem, i have a strong laptop and i play some other game in ultra (like the division or overwatch).

i tried to change the mouse it doen't solve it neither.

In my opinion, the problem come from the game but i dont find any solution to access to some usefull console commands.

Is anyone have the same issue than me? is anyone have any idea that can help me?

I really hope someone can help me to play this game :p
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badtrip Sep 6, 2016 @ 6:39am 
Could you provide more information about your computer?
Laptop model, cpu, video card, ram, Windows version?
fatboypilot Sep 27, 2016 @ 11:40pm 
I have the same issue. But it just started happening in the past few days. I acutally just re-installed the game to see if that resolved the issue, but it persisted. Not sure what the deal is.

I have MSI GS40 laptop with intel i7-6700HQ CPU@2.6, a NVIDIA GTX970, 16 GB , Windows 10
n3mes1s Sep 28, 2016 @ 6:23am 
If you have vsync activated, try to deactivate it. I noticed that vsync in some games (specially the ones not really properly optimized) make the mouse movement really heavy and laggy.

Also, if you have an nvidia card go to the main control panel (you know, right click on your desktop - nvidia control panel) and there is an option called "number of maximum pre-rendered frames" or something like that (im translating from spanish so i dunno if thats correct). If you can, lower that number to 1.
Mini Jo Sep 28, 2016 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by fatboypilot:
I have the same issue. But it just started happening in the past few days. I acutally just re-installed the game to see if that resolved the issue, but it persisted. Not sure what the deal is.

I have MSI GS40 laptop with intel i7-6700HQ CPU@2.6, a NVIDIA GTX970, 16 GB , Windows 10

Are you also experiencing bad performance overall?

Since you are on a laptop, I think it might be worth looking at this solution and see if it helps: http://steamcommunity.com/app/251230/discussions/0/343785574518311258/#c343785574522806629
Last edited by Mini Jo; Sep 28, 2016 @ 7:18am
brudda Sep 28, 2016 @ 3:13pm 
Im gonna give the vsync a try, but i do nitice the mouse smoothing. it gets pretty annoying when youre getting swarmed, trying to take out specific targets, but I have to wait for the mouse aiming to catch up.

I thought this was intentional because of controllers, but from what im reading it could be performance issue? My computer can handle games fairly well so not sure if thats the case.
Last edited by brudda; Sep 28, 2016 @ 3:14pm
Mini Jo Sep 28, 2016 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Brudda:
Im gonna give the vsync a try, but i do nitice the mouse smoothing. it gets pretty annoying when youre getting swarmed, trying to take out specific targets, but I have to wait for the mouse aiming to catch up.

I thought this was intentional because of controllers, but from what im reading it could be performance issue? My computer can handle games fairly well so not sure if thats the case.
It might not be a performance issue, depends on how smooth gameplay is. I want to know if it Is really only the mouse that is lagging.

If this is the case, then yes, disabling VSync should indeed help. Also not limitting FPS by setting the FPS slider to Unlimited FPS, should also help.
Last edited by Mini Jo; Sep 28, 2016 @ 3:36pm
brudda Sep 28, 2016 @ 7:49pm 
disabling vsync didnt really help much, but setting the fps slider to unlimited did help a bit, which is nice. I can still notice some delay, but not as "bad" previously locked at 60fps.
n3mes1s Sep 29, 2016 @ 7:53pm 
Originally posted by Brudda:
disabling vsync didnt really help much, but setting the fps slider to unlimited did help a bit, which is nice. I can still notice some delay, but not as "bad" previously locked at 60fps.

One "trick" i use is to disable vsync in-game and activate it from the nvidia control panel in "adaptative" mode. It works wonders. It allows me to avoid the fps limit and at the same time have vsync just when the game needs it.
brudda Sep 29, 2016 @ 8:20pm 
hrmm, interesting, didnt think of that. I have Amd, but i have seen vsync options in the panel. ill have to give it a try.
n3mes1s Sep 30, 2016 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Brudda:
hrmm, interesting, didnt think of that. I have Amd, but i have seen vsync options in the panel. ill have to give it a try.

Im afraid the "Adaptative" mode is only present in nvidia cards.. as far as i know.
Storm_at_Sea Oct 7, 2016 @ 2:26am 
I'm early in the game, but I did have lag at one point- the hulking hound mission, most of the first wave, part of the second, but was better after that. (I'm on a desktop that handles a lot more intense, demanding programs/games without issues- Win 7-64). If this occurs again elsewhere in the game, I'll provide more details.

I didn't notice any Mouse opts in the settings- did I just miss it or are there truly none? (mouse acc., Invert, etc.).:mouseX:

While I am a WASD gamer, I still always appreciate the Key Rebinding opts (as I tend to change a few specials sometimes) so a big thanks for that.:ZombieKey:

**********P.S.**************
Do the devs have something against pale-eyed desktop gamers?! Whenever you open the game, you get Blasted! by this large brite white screen- who thought that would be a good idea?! Maybe if you wanted a migraine or a case of snow-blindness indoors! Don't imagine the devs could do something about this? (darker background?) I haven't had this long, so I forget to not face my monitor when starting the game, but the first thing the game does is tick me off. If you're borderline on getting headache, don't play this game that's for sure!
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Last edited by Storm_at_Sea; Oct 8, 2016 @ 4:06am
Lord_Hamish Nov 26, 2016 @ 9:03am 
I, too, have a huge problem with mouse lag. Only when playing Livelock, all other games work just fine. Tried all that is mentioned here, but did not help at all. I have an Acer Notebook and a GT 750M. Its a fun game, especially the coop, but the mouse lag makes it tough to play...
McCovican Dec 1, 2016 @ 1:24pm 
I'm also having huge issues with this - the mouse lag/smoothing is terrible. It's not a performance issue (running fine at 60fps). No vsync, even tried the old "limit pre-rendered frames to 1" thing. GTX 970 4GB, 16GB DDR3, i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz. Small benefit noted when I delimited the framerate in the game settings, but not significant enough.

Is there even a config file somewhere we can work with?
McCovican Dec 31, 2016 @ 11:29am 
So, any input from the devs on this? It's been a month guys; the cursor still feels like stirring a bucket of tar and it's pretty unusable. There's not even a sensitivity slider!
heynando Aug 10, 2017 @ 2:58am 
i'm experiencing the same issue. If i do not move the mouse, the FPS is a constant 60, but if I touch the mouse and induce movement it drops to 24 20.. The stutter is extremely hard and unfeasiable to play. It is something to do with the mouse, because if I use the controller there's no stutter. I would like to play this with the mouse though. Help?

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good news. researching around the web I found the source of the issue. It's related to the polling rate of input of the mouse. To solve it, all you have to do is turn down the polling rate to 125hz. Most gamers use 1000hz nowadays, it's common. Tuning it down to 500hz will still cause little stutters, dropping the FPS to 50ish, not ideal. To get rid of the completely, to play butter smoothly, you will need to tune the polling rate down to 125hz, then the FPS will still be a constant 60 again.
Last edited by heynando; Aug 10, 2017 @ 5:34am
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