diplomacy with ai in single player 2 options

[Nox]

Dev, I have to say I am a bit sad there are a lack of options in here. Only declare war and no-aggression pack. Why no alliance option? or you know a little bit more here?

[Boka]

Adding diplomacy is a good progress. Diplomacy is still and maybe more important in zero sum game when there are many players.
Current diplomacy is kind of too simple and not really working in single-player game (I have never seen AI accepting a deal). Hope AI opinion and other common diplomatic actions would be available in the future versions.

[joiss90]

I think more diplomacy would be interesting but I have my doubts about how well the AI would handle it when I look at my games playing as LA Lemuria (and to a lesser degree MA Ermor) where the AI happily accept Non-aggression pact... I wonder if they would even break it if I cast Utterdark if they don't well they probably should.

[Hully]

I just discovered it takes 3 turn to get a reply back, that you are going to break a NAP then... a 3 turn count down till you are able to go to war. Well I quite like that adds a bit of flavour.

Just need someone to confirm the AI actually can and will break NAP?

[timlagor]

Apparently if you accidentally attack a place your NAP partner just took you Rout and lose loads of troops (and vice versa) even if the routing army is much the stronger.

This is a problem. You should either cancel your move unharmed or end passively in the province but not controlling it.

I don't know how it decides who fights first but it makes no sense thematically and I'm sure this could be gamed.

[Faptor]

Messaggio originale di timlagor:

Apparently if you accidentally attack a place your NAP partner just took you Rout and lose loads of troops (and vice versa) even if the routing army is much the stronger.

This is a problem. You should either cancel your move unharmed or end passively in the province but not controlling it.

I don't know how it decides who fights first but it makes no sense thematically and I'm sure this could be gamed.

I lost an army of 600+ skeletons because of this. Luckly it was only a small army that game but it messed up my plans for a south eastern assault >.<

[Reffy]

Age of Wonders 4 has shared victory options. Meaning, if your ally wins the game, you win as well. Would be nice if this game had that as well.
You have disciple games, but you can't coordinate with your AI ally at all. You can't even join their battles.

Not only does this game have poor graphics, it also has poor diplomacy and teamplay. Such a missed opportunity, especially since they had those options in their previous game, Elysium.

[Count von Bunnyhopven]

In this game all other nations are your enemies because there can be only one pantokrator. Even a nation that you signed a NAP-3 with is only someone who you get to kill later instead of right now.

[AN]

An alliance makes no sense, what would it even entail?

As is the NAP option needs to be reworked so that your armies fight if you both move into an enemy province, and without breaking NAP, as is it's just a free tool to mess up an opponent without recourse, risk, or meaningful cost that you're supposed to not be messing with.

[Necroscourge]

Disciples games are open to a little more diplomacy in that you don't want to be too hasty to declare full scale war on other gods without a clear strategy; but in general because of the zero-sum nature of Dominions it's kind of hard to propose lasting diplomacy.

I do wish that trading gems was possible in SP, but I also know it would be way too easy to extort other factions for gems with junk magic items.

[DasaKamov]

Messaggio originale di Count von Bunnyhopven:

In this game all other nations are your enemies

Unless you play in Disciples mode, which is the "shared victory with allies" setting. ;)

[Dezzmont]

Functionally an alliance in Dominions is a NAP with an agreed objective, which isn't realistic to expect the AI to be able to handle.

The AI learning how to trade might be interesting, as would binding trades, but that is pretty much the extent to which you could add Dominion's 'non-political diplomacy.'