resources are they gathered from adjacent provinces?

[MythTrip]

manual says a fort gathers resources from neighboring provinces, but I tested this in a game and it doesnt seem to be the case.
1 So it has to be from neighboring provinces you occupy, right?
2 Does the neighboring province maybe need to have a fort too to gather resouces?

any insight would be helpful, resources seem to be the limiting factor in recruitment, need to get this straight...take care!!

[KhaviSnakepact]

If a province has no fort, it just gets resources from its own province.

If a province has a fort located in it then it will take a portion of the resources from adjacent friendly provinces (that you own, not allies like in a disciple game).

If you have a fort in a province and then fort one of the adjacent tiles you will no longer gain resources from it (which is why most nations shouldn't fort every tile).

Also should be noted that the resources are finite, if too many forts are gathering from the same tile they won't gain as much because the number is getting split between them.

[Sombre]

A fort also unlocks some amount of the 'hidden' resource in the province it's in. I think this can nearly double the resources even ignoring any neighbours.

[Ddraig Lleuad]

It has to be a province you occupy, yeah, that seems to be what's tripping you up.

[Draken]

Yes. Basically an unforted province has only half of it's resources actually available for recruitment.
Building a fort then "unlocks" the other half as well as drawing a certain percentage of resources from surrounding provinces (only unforted ones).
So you can easily triple the amount of resources you have available with a fort.

You do have to own the provinces though. And land <-> water connections are invalid for resource drawing too.

[Tzyder]

anyone test if forts pull resources through cave passages?

[TraceTheKriken]

Originally posted by Tzyder:

anyone test if forts pull resources through cave passages?

yes they do! they also pull resources through provinces divided by rivers, and mountain pass!

from the dom 6 manual:
"Province will only gain the benefit of its full production when that province has a fort. Furthermore, once a province has a fort, the fort uses its Admin value to draw resources from adjacent provinces, within certain restrictions.
These are:
* A land fort cannot draw resources from an adjacent sea
province and vice versa.
* Forts cannot draw resources from adjacent provinces that also
contain forts.
* No fort can draw resources from an adjacent enemy province. "

So the higher the quality of the fort (better admin), the highet the amount of resources siphoned from adjacent provinces

[Draken]

Too many forts drawing from one province can also completely drain that province from resources, making you unable to recruit anything from it.
This also can lead to the other forts having less resources to work with. This is usually not too much of a problem, but can for example mean being able to produce less capital only resource heavy units if you put too many forts in your capital circle.

[Hades]

Also if there is a sea it may very some nations can trace trade over sea others cant

[MythTrip]

wow excellent answers from a great community thank you

[Draken]

Originally posted by Hades:

Also if there is a sea it may very some nations can trace trade over sea others cant

Are you sure?
I am about 99,99% certain that no resources are transfered between water and land provinces. No matter the circumstances.

It would be a logistical nightmare to go from underwater to overland transport.

[Swirler]

Originally posted by TraceTheKriken:

Originally posted by Tzyder:

anyone test if forts pull resources through cave passages?

yes they do! they also pull resources through provinces divided by rivers, and mountain pass!

from the dom 6 manual:
"Province will only gain the benefit of its full production when that province has a fort. Furthermore, once a province has a fort, the fort uses its Admin value to draw resources from adjacent provinces, within certain restrictions.
These are:
* A land fort cannot draw resources from an adjacent sea
province and vice versa.
* Forts cannot draw resources from adjacent provinces that also
contain forts.
* No fort can draw resources from an adjacent enemy province. "

So the higher the quality of the fort (better admin), the highet the amount of resources siphoned from adjacent provinces

From caves to the normal world? wow I didn't know that.

[freek_o_nature]

Originally posted by TraceTheKriken:

Originally posted by Tzyder:

anyone test if forts pull resources through cave passages?

yes they do!

For real? I know fort resources weren't limited by overground/underground province connections in Dominions 5, but in that case, overground and underground provinces were connected directly; now, there's a "passage step" that one has to move through to move between overground and underground provinces. I was wondering if the "passage step" transfers resources to forts on the other side or if it blocks resource access, so I hope this is true!

[TraceTheKriken]

Originally posted by freek_o_nature:

For real? I know fort resources weren't limited by overground/underground province connections in Dominions 5, but in that case, overground and underground provinces were connected directly; now, there's a "passage step" that one has to move through to move between overground and underground provinces. I was wondering if the "passage step" transfers resources to forts on the other side or if it blocks resource access, so I hope this is true!

I was playing a game with MA Xibalba, and I noticed an increase in resources after I conquered the surface province connected to my capital. My apologies in advance if I'm wrong, but I'm 90% sure about this

edit: I quickly tested it right now.
468 res before surface conquest---> 491 after conquest. no scale changes.
So yes, you get resources from the surface and vice versa

[freek_o_nature]

Jazzed! Thanks for investigating! =)

[anaris]

Note that the manual also mentions that the Fort draws its resources from the *full* pool of a neighbouring province, not the half-pool that you can access without forting that province.