Need some explaination about Blood hunting as EA Mictlan

[Xinner]

Hey guyz, i'm new to Dominion and I can't get enougth of this game. So i've decided to try Blood magic with Mitclan and the most relaible guide i've seen so far are Dom 5 guides from Baalz (Wich seemed to be the reference back in the day) But I kinda struggle with these several points :

-In order to blood hunt, I've correctly put some labs on 7500 pop sites but my guyz keep getting murdered by peasant. He doesn't seems to obey my scripts (Tried script leech wich cost 0 slave afaIk). I've noticed that sometimes, his blood slaves will show up and he can win the fight (but still won't cast the spells i've scripted for him). So i've considered spread my dominion to prevent this but I just can't pump the gold to build both temples and labs. any tips? is there a way to give them bodygards?

-Other problem, i've managed to summon with blood the deamon wich is supposed to be an assassin with blood magic. In Baalz guide, he said in dom 5 you could send the deamon with blood servant to script summon imps or hearth bind but when I tried, her blood slaves didn't show and she got OS her target.

So Am I missing somthing or assassination scenes are bugged ? any tips?

[Mormacil]

Bhaal's guide uses Dom5 population levels, I know they shifted but don't know to what. All I know is that the guidelines in the old guides are to low now.

[SaD-82]

Scripts don't work in assassination attempts (and angry peasants while bloodhunting are assassination attemps, just done by neutrals) done to you.
A safe way is to put bodyguards on your bloodhunters to teach those peasants a lesson or two - this you do on the army setup screen. Up to 4 units can be put in a squad and be chosen as bodyguard duty.

[Ddraig Lleuad]

Originally posted by SaD-82:

Up to 4 units can be put in a squad and be chosen as bodyguard duty.

It's actually 5.

[Xinner]

Originally posted by Mormacil:

Bhaal's guide uses Dom5 population levels, I know they shifted but don't know to what. All I know is that the guidelines in the old guides are to low now.

I know it was 5000 in Dom 5 and it's 7500 now

[Xinner]

Originally posted by SaD-82:

Scripts don't work in assassination attempts (and angry peasants while bloodhunting are assassination attemps, just done by neutrals) done to you.
A safe way is to put bodyguards on your bloodhunters to teach those peasants a lesson or two - this you do on the army setup screen. Up to 4 units can be put in a squad and be chosen as bodyguard duty.

Than you for your answer!
Do you know if script not working on assassination is a bug? cause it seemed to work in dom 5.

[Ddraig Lleuad]

They did not work in dom 5. It was a big part of the strength of assassins, for nations that had ready access to them - they'll probably be even stronger now, due to being more viable for expansion.

[Red_Rob]

Because Blood has a lot of single-target, high damage spells it was quite oppressive in assassination battles. To combat this, Illwinter made it so Blood Slaves are unlikely to appear during an assassination, which is thematic as it's hard to sneak up on someone when you are herding a bunch of drugged & tied up people...

This does mean that assassins with only B magic will need to rely on Leeching Touch, or *gasp* use actual weapons to win the assassination.

[SaD-82]

Originally posted by Xinner:

Do you know if script not working on assassination is a bug?

As mentioned: It's WAD.
But you can pseudo-script - meaning: Get some bottles of living water or skull talismans or acorns to your commanders and you will basically "script" your commanders to summon water elementals or longdeads or vine men. Put some lightning summoning helmets on top of that and you're good to go. Scripting without scripting.

[Necroscourge]

To add on, Construction is very handy for getting your blood economy started. At low blood levels you can craft dowsing rods that get you more blood per turn, and there's three different items that raise blood path (Soul Armor, Brazen Skull, Blood Thorn) so while you are paying 100~ blood per searcher you're making sure that each province is giving you 50+ a turn for pretty fast ROI. This does rely on you having blood 2 mage recruits though.

[Xinner]

Originally posted by Necroscourge:

To add on, Construction is very handy for getting your blood economy started. At low blood levels you can craft dowsing rods that get you more blood per turn, and there's three different items that raise blood path (Soul Armor, Brazen Skull, Blood Thorn) so while you are paying 100~ blood per searcher you're making sure that each province is giving you 50+ a turn for pretty fast ROI. This does rely on you having blood 2 mage recruits though.

So you recomand to equip every blood farmer with these items to farm more blood? kinda expensiv

[Necroscourge]

Originally posted by Xinner:

So you recomand to equip every blood farmer with these items to farm more blood? kinda expensiv

Sort of. Right now my EA Abyssia strategy is having my Warlocks (Blood 2) congregate at 10k+ territories with a few normies as patrols. We set up a laboratory in those provinces, and we prioritize having the groups not actively blood hunting do crafting. First we make the dowsing rods (2B, 5 blood each) and give those to all the warlocks, while our hero warlock (Blood 4) crafts the +Blood items which we assign to our researchers/crafters at the capital first so that they can do blood rituals. Once they are all Blood 5 they can craft even more +blood items and you can hand those out to new recruits or the searchers.

Because they won't be out there searching forever, you will reach a point where you have so many blood slaves that you can supplement your army with B5 blood casters that you can theoretically recycle the items of; where if you empower you risk Horror Mark and that gets messy.

[Chronia]

I once got some advice to "avoid recruiting mages just to research, recruit what you need for a combat corps of mages and think of their research as a bonus thing they do when not needed in a fight".

Blood hunting is similar: you're not crafting those path boosters to get B5 mages so that you can blood hunt, you're crafting them so that you have B5 mages who can drown your enemies in blood and demons. They just blood hunt when they're not needed to murder stuff.

Of course there are exceptions to this: nations that have special research mages like sages, or nations that have units with blood hunting bonuses can/should be used even if they're not part of the mage corps. But remember that in the end the whole point is to destroy your enemies.

[Necroscourge]

Indeed, our ultimate goal with our army of blood magicians is to summon a large army of monsters to supplement our army, smite dudes with blood spells, and ritual cast. Merely spamming blood searchers with dowsing rods is really all you need to get slaves

[anaris]

To clarify, it's a 25% chance for some of your blood slaves to appear (theirs too), and the script for the assassin should work - it's just that when the peasants attack you, they're the assassin. Victims are surprised and don't react appropriately (because it made a huge difference in earlier versions, but meant you had to constantly change scripts back and forth between regular battle and assassination defence)