Bless effects

[Superfl0yd]

Hello all,

I’m still learning and have a question regarding bless effects. For example, I create a pretender with ‘X’ level in a certain magic path in order to access bless effect ‘Y’. When my priest casts bless on my sacred units, does that priest also need to be level ‘X’ in that same magic path I gave my pretender, or does that ‘Y’ effect happen automatically upon casting bless? Or is there perhaps some other requirement I’m not aware of in order for that bless effect to happen? Putting aside requirements such incarnate only. I hope I’ve explained myself clearly. Thanks!

[way2co0l_2003]

The priest does not need to have the same magic path as the pretender at all. All priests can bless sacred units with the bless effects the pretender unlocked regardless of their own abilities.

The things to note are any bless effects that state "incarnate" which require the pretender to be active for the effect to work on a unit that's blessed in battle by a priest. Any sacred units within your pretender's army are automatically blessed at the start of every battle as long as you're within your own dominion territory so no priest to cast bless will be necessary at all in that case... Also more powerful priests can cast a greater bless spell which will apply to all sacred units on the entire battlefield all at once rather than having to cast the normal bless repeatedly to trigger it for all your units.

[Draken]

They just need to be blessed.
Better priests just bless faster/more.

[1337Dude]

Originally posted by way2co0l_2003:

The priest does not need to have the same magic path as the pretender at all. All priests can bless sacred units with the bless effects the pretender unlocked regardless of their own abilities.

The things to note are any bless effects that state "incarnate" which require the pretender to be active for the effect to work on a unit that's blessed in battle by a priest. Any sacred units within your pretender's army are automatically blessed at the start of every battle so no priest to cast bless will be necessary at all in that case... Also more powerful priests can cast a greater bless spell which will apply to all sacred units on the entire battlefield all at once rather than having to cast the normal bless repeatedly to trigger it for all your units.

Unless I'm mistaken, your Pretender and his personal armies are only blessed within the reach of your dominion.

[way2co0l_2003]

Originally posted by 1337Dude:

Originally posted by way2co0l_2003:

The priest does not need to have the same magic path as the pretender at all. All priests can bless sacred units with the bless effects the pretender unlocked regardless of their own abilities.

The things to note are any bless effects that state "incarnate" which require the pretender to be active for the effect to work on a unit that's blessed in battle by a priest. Any sacred units within your pretender's army are automatically blessed at the start of every battle so no priest to cast bless will be necessary at all in that case... Also more powerful priests can cast a greater bless spell which will apply to all sacred units on the entire battlefield all at once rather than having to cast the normal bless repeatedly to trigger it for all your units.

Unless I'm mistaken, your Pretender and his personal armies are only blessed within the reach of your dominion.

You're correct and I corrected it. :D

[Skylab]

Originally posted by way2co0l_2003:

The priest does not need to have the same magic path as the pretender at all. All priests can bless sacred units with the bless effects the pretender unlocked regardless of their own abilities.

Also more powerful priests can cast a greater bless spell which will apply to all sacred units on the entire battlefield all at once rather than having to cast the normal bless repeatedly to trigger it for all your units.

Only prophets can do this. Divine blessing, so far as I know, can only ever be used by your current prophet.

[Draken]

Originally posted by Skylab:

Originally posted by way2co0l_2003:

The priest does not need to have the same magic path as the pretender at all. All priests can bless sacred units with the bless effects the pretender unlocked regardless of their own abilities.

Also more powerful priests can cast a greater bless spell which will apply to all sacred units on the entire battlefield all at once rather than having to cast the normal bless repeatedly to trigger it for all your units.

Only prophets can do this. Divine blessing, so far as I know, can only ever be used by your current prophet.

Nope. Any holy 3 can use it.
Holy 3 casters are just a bit rare.

[Superfl0yd]

Ok great thank you all very much for the responses and and the help, much appreciated!

[Nilserrich]

Originally posted by Draken:

They just need to be blessed.
Better priests just bless faster/more.

I didn't realize that multiple lvl 1 blesses lead to the Bless effect for all units. How often do I have to perform the Bless so that all units are Blessed and not just the Sacred units? How does the exact mechanic behind it work? That's a real game changer for me.

[way2co0l_2003]

Originally posted by Nilserich:

Originally posted by Draken:

They just need to be blessed.
Better priests just bless faster/more.

I didn't realize that multiple lvl 1 blesses lead to the Bless effect for all units. How often do I have to perform the Bless so that all units are Blessed and not just the Sacred units? How does the exact mechanic behind it work? That's a real game changer for me. :happystar2022:

Only sacred units can be blessed. Non sacred units cannot be. The basic bless spell only has an area of effect range of 3 so you can only bless a certain number of sacred units per cast with the low level bless. The stronger bless will bless all your sacreds mapwide though.

[BoboYagga]

Originally posted by Nilserich:

Originally posted by Draken:

They just need to be blessed.
Better priests just bless faster/more.

I didn't realize that multiple lvl 1 blesses lead to the Bless effect for all units. How often do I have to perform the Bless so that all units are Blessed and not just the Sacred units? How does the exact mechanic behind it work? That's a real game changer for me. :happystar2022:

If a unit does not have the sacred tag then they will not be blessed. You can cast Sermon of Courage to give a moral boost to non sacred troops however.

[SaD-82]

Originally posted by Nilserich:

That's a real game changer for me. :happystar2022:

Well, it would be if you could bless normal troops.
Which you can't.
Blessings only apply to sacred units.

Edit: Being ninja'ed on this one.

[Draken]

Yep. As others stated, only sacred troops will recieve bless effects.
Though there is an item that gives a commander sacred status.

[Necroscourge]

The way it works is that all priests cast bless spells on the sacred units in their army. Stronger priests can bless more soldiers in one casting, they get stronger versions of the three or so types of divine spells you get (bless, and the two customs), and level three priests can take thrones. Typically you don't have native access to level threes, though some sacred commander summons fit the bill.

There's a few items you can craft that manipulate sacred status and priest power. The Sword Of Justice, Immaculate Shield and The Sword of Injustice are artificact level and increase priest power. The only generic item that increases priest level is Construction 7 4G2F called The Ring Of The False prophet; LA Ragha has a Construction 3 1F1A crown that improves their priests. It's worth noting the ring and crown CANNOT be removed due to how powerful increasing priest power is.

The shroud of the battle saint can make normal commanders sacred and the flask of holy water autoblesses them (handy for sacred thugs)