RedFor Armored Decks

[Beaushizzle]

So, I have my RedFor Mech deck. It rocks. BluFor Mech and Armored deck both are great.

Tips on a RedFor armored deck? There are so many choices. I need halp.

[One]

USSR+NK
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The best redfor armored deck is USSR+NK armored for sure. Actually it's the best armored deck in game now. Even better than US armored which I would call the 2nd best armored in game.

4 x t90 (t90\t72BU) make blufor guys cry like babies while you have 2 additional t80um as a backup.

2 cards of t80u for 155 points are quite good as well, whough you shouldn't expect t80u to beat Leclerc in duel.

t72-y89 just sucks for it's 150 points price so you'd better take t80u for 5 more points.

t64bv and t64bv1 are quite good either for 130 and 120 points (t72 and t80 in this price range is worse than t64).

As for cheap tanks t80 for 65 points with its 9 RoF and autoloader is really cool thing for close combat while t72b1 for 85 is not bad for middle range.

Tunguska-M is a must have thing to protect your tanks from Longbow, while TOR is the best thing to protect them from planes while you try to push. So you should have both.

A card of sapeurs (10 men) at BTR-T is quite a usefull thing if you ocasionally will have to fight for some buildings ot a forest though of course it's not the main task for an armored deck.

Motostrelky is just your recon and meatshield most of the time, though if you backup them with a couple of t80 (65x2) they can do the job.

BMPT is a tricky thing. For the same price you'd better take t80 that will support your infantry and can even kill some enemy tanks in close combat while bmpt fail to do so.

Of course you should have B5 and mig27 (95 points x 2 ellite) in your deck and some figher either (mig25PD - 2 ellite, or Su27PU)


NSWP
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NSWP armored deck is quite good either if you going to have a mixed combat tanks+infantry since you can take mot-shutzen in it.

Polish Wilk for 85 and 125 points are better than anything you can take in USSR deck for this price. You can also spam 130 and 135 points t72 tanks with this deck that are quite good there and you can take a lot of them.

However you don't have real top tanks in NSWP deck (Twardy and Moderna are good but its not m1a2, leo2a5, t90 level), so if you going to have a battle against bluefor armored deck you'd better take USSR+NK armored anyway.

Besides NSWP AA and arirforce is worse than USSR+NK . You don't have TungM so you will have more problems with Longbow. Actually Longbow, Hornets and Harrier GR7 are the main treats for any of your armored decks.


Red Dragons
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Red Dragons armored is quite bad deck so I don't even see a reason to describe it here in details.

[Nero]

You lose the burito and inf transports in favor of more tanks that you don't really need and that +1 vet that wont make a difference either. SOVKOR maybe with T-90 T-72BU T-80UM.

[Kamikaze Velociraptor]

The T-90 and T-72BU get owned by M1A1 HA and M1A2. I've seen this happen too many times. Russian armor have poor optics compare to American tanks. Russians can spam T-72s all day but they're poorly armored. They get rket by BLufor tanks. Especially British and German tanks will destory anything Russian. The T-80UM is too slow and get destoryed by fast moving medium tanks by NATO. There is a reason why US armor deck is beloved and that is the realiabilty of the M1 series. They're accurate and heavily armored.

[One]

Originally posted by Nero:

You lose the burito and inf transports in favor of more tanks that you don't really need and that +1 vet that wont make a difference either. SOVKOR maybe with T-90 T-72BU T-80UM.

You are almost right. Armored deck for sure is a very special thing that is needed only in conquest mode at a couple of maps if you play in a team there.

However veterancy makes a big difference for redfor tanks cause redfor tanks have low accuracy while veterancy solves this problem.

[One]

Originally posted by Faptimus Prime MK.IV:

The T-90 and T-72BU get owned by M1A1 HA and M1A2. I've seen this happen too many times. Russian armor have poor optics compare to American tanks. Russians can spam T-72s all day but they're poorly armored. They get rket by BLufor tanks. Especially British and German tanks will destory anything Russian. The T-80UM is too slow and get destoryed by fast moving medium tanks by NATO. There is a reason why US armor deck is beloved and that is the realiabilty of the M1 series. They're accurate and heavily armored.

You are absolutly wrong.

[Solon]

Originally posted by One:

Originally posted by Faptimus Prime MK.IV:

The T-90 and T-72BU get owned by M1A1 HA and M1A2. I've seen this happen too many times. Russian armor have poor optics compare to American tanks. Russians can spam T-72s all day but they're poorly armored. They get rket by BLufor tanks. Especially British and German tanks will destory anything Russian. The T-80UM is too slow and get destoryed by fast moving medium tanks by NATO. There is a reason why US armor deck is beloved and that is the realiabilty of the M1 series. They're accurate and heavily armored.

You are absolutly wrong.

+1

[Nero]

An invar atgm like the one on the T-80UM kills a M1A2 when it hits the side with 1 hit.
Just wanted to drop that in here.

[TallestDavid]

Originally posted by Jagergrenadiere:

Originally posted by One:

You are absolutly wrong.

+1

+1

[SMEAGLEBUTCRACK]

Make an East German armoured deck,

Great mix of tanks and anti-air aswell as bulk, cheap and veteran Mot Shutzen.

Mot Shutzen are by far the best infantry in the game and getting them in an already great armoured deck is the true icing on the cake.

[One]

Originally posted by SMEAGLEBUTCRACK:

Make an East German armoured deck,

Great mix of tanks and anti-air aswell as bulk, cheap and veteran Mot Shutzen.

Mot Shutzen are by far the best infantry in the game and getting them in an already great armoured deck is the true icing on the cake.

No sence at alll in east-german arnored deck without Twardy and Moderna and polish Wilks for 85 and 125 points while you can make NSWP armored deck with all of them.

[SMEAGLEBUTCRACK]

Originally posted by One:

Originally posted by SMEAGLEBUTCRACK:

Make an East German armoured deck,

Great mix of tanks and anti-air aswell as bulk, cheap and veteran Mot Shutzen.

Mot Shutzen are by far the best infantry in the game and getting them in an already great armoured deck is the true icing on the cake.

No sence at alll in east-german arnored deck without Twardy and Moderna and polish Wilks for 85 and 125 points while you can make NSWP armored deck with all of them.

The trade off for excellent AA and cheap Mot Shutzen is worth more than the higher power hitting tanks like the Moderna and Twardy.

[One]

Originally posted by SMEAGLEBUTCRACK:

Originally posted by One:

No sence at alll in east-german arnored deck without Twardy and Moderna and polish Wilks for 85 and 125 points while you can make NSWP armored deck with all of them.

The trade off for excellent AA and cheap Mot Shutzen is worth more than the higher power hitting tanks like the Moderna and Twardy.

What are you talking about? NWSP = Germany+Poland+Czech. It has both motshutzen and Moderna with Twardy. No trade off other than 5 activation points but it's ok to get 3 countries staff in one deck.

[Nero]

east german armoured xD The one redfor country that lacks good tanks restricted to tanks.

[Solon]

Originally posted by SMEAGLEBUTCRACK:

Originally posted by One:

No sence at alll in east-german arnored deck without Twardy and Moderna and polish Wilks for 85 and 125 points while you can make NSWP armored deck with all of them.

The trade off for excellent AA and cheap Mot Shutzen is worth more than the higher power hitting tanks like the Moderna and Twardy.

What sense is there in always using top tier super heavies? I kill just as many top tier tanks with T-72Bs as I do with any top tier. 6 seems to be my max on tanks brought in, though I get 16 of them. 95 points.

[Kamikaze Velociraptor]

You're better off spamming 90-120 point tanks because they can tank down super heavy tanks. The M1A1 or the 72BOber87 can take down super heavys in numbers.