Swiss army

[faircobber]

I recon the developers should add the swiss deck to the game as they are and interesting army and a developer of alot of modern weapons.
I know this because i have some swiss gear which i reviewed on my channel at mr webgeneral

[Nero]

hahahaha I am swiss and omg dude seriously nope.

We had like one indigenous tank (noteworthy) which was pretty much a patton and it sucked so much it fired on its own when you turned on the air conditioner. Was a huge scandal. As for the rest it will make the north koreans look like high tech. We could go full alternate reality like they did with the norks that have T-90. So I guess since we were neutral we had some arms deals going with Israel they supplied us with Grenade Launchers and Maglans which we then gave to every vehicle and infantry. Also glorious F-18 fighter bomber and Puma attack helicopter with a single soldier armed with a SIG 550 inside. (no BS they called that an attack helicopter in swiss TV news.)

Still back in the day as a joke I plead for the Swiss army to be added too in ALB even said at the first pictures that it looks like it plays in Switzerland.

We could get the Piranha as a troop transport to troll the US Americans. Its basically the LAV.

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by indomitalbe turtle:

I recon the developers should add the swiss deck to the game as they are and interesting army and a developer of alot of modern weapons.

They are neutral though, and the risk that they would get involved in a cold war outbreak would have been very unlikely since they did not even take part in ww2.

Modern swiss equipment is interesting, but back then..they did not have anything really.

[Fast Johnny]

Well, they do have those cool little knives...you know, the ones with the toothpick, scissors and bottle opener.....

Someone had to say it.

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Fast Johnny:

Well, they do have those cool little knives...you know, the ones with the toothpick, scissors and bottle opener.....

Someone had to say it.

Yeah, Swiss Army knives..

btw..they are utter BS..they might be a cool asset to have in your pocket as a civilian or a soldier, but when it comes to actual close quarter combat, you do better with a proper bayonet.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by Jean-Christophe Chaufourier:

btw..they are utter BS..they might be a cool asset to have in your pocket as a civilian or a soldier, but when it comes to actual close quarter combat, you do better with a proper bayonet.

I don't think anyone ever thought that the tiny little paring knife was intended as a combat tool. ;)

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

Originally posted by Jean-Christophe Chaufourier:

btw..they are utter BS..they might be a cool asset to have in your pocket as a civilian or a soldier, but when it comes to actual close quarter combat, you do better with a proper bayonet.

I don't think anyone ever thought that the tiny little paring knife was intended as a combat tool. ;)

Exactly, and this makes it pretty useless, since all the other parts of this knife are not very helpful for any military role.

[Col. Smith | Vigilante]

Swiss Deck:

LOG:

FOB
Piranha 6x6 Kdo
Puch Kdo
Kdo Pz 63 (M113 Commando)
Mowag Duro (10 points)
Saurer Truck (20 points)
IVECO Truck (25 points maybe 30)
Raupentransportwagen 68: Its a M548
Super Puma / Cougar Logistics: Just like the french one, 25 points

INF:
Füsiliere: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, MG51 (15 Men squad) (Maybe make them Militia)
Füsiliere '90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51 (We have M249 since 2005) (Maybe make them Regular)
Grenadiere: Stgw 57, Flammenwerfer 42/55, MG51 (Elite) (Flamethrower Inf)
Grenadiere '90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51 (Maybe give them a sniper rifle) (Airborne) (Elite)
Panzerjäger '67: Stgw 57, Bantam Rb 53
Panzerjäger '90: Stgw 90, M47 Dragon with higher AP than the normal up to 1800m range
Stinger: Stgw 57, FIM-92 A Stinger
Stinger '90: Stgw 90, FIM-92 C Stinger
Panzergrenadier: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, MG51
Panzergrenadier 90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51


For transport vehicles see in Vehicle section.

SUP:
Panzerhaubitze 66 (Something inbetween M109 and M109A2)
Panzerkanone 68: Panzer 68 with 15.5cm Artillery gun (Range: 30km, 6 rpm) (prototype)
M109 KAWEST (Just like M109 A6) also called Paladin
Panzerminenwerfer 64 (Just like the german Tampella 120mm)

Rapier was stationary (no mobile option available since it would consist of 5 vehicles)
BL-64 Bloodhound was stationary (No option to make it mobile :( )
Oerlikon 20mm: Just like the Scandinavian one (Stationary but maybe make them Mobile)
Oerlikon 35mm: Just like the Main Gun of the gepard (Stationary but maybe make them Mobile)

Prototypes:
Flab Panzer B22L: Chassis of Pz 68 with Gepard A1 Turret on it
Mowag Shark 0: Something like Piranha 8x8 with 1x 35mm Oerlikon
Mowag Shark 1: Something like Piranha 8x8 with 2x 30mm canon
Mowag Shark 2: Something like Piranha 8x8 with Crotale
Mowag Shark 3: Something like Piranha 8x8 with ADATS

TNK:
Panzerjäger G13: Similar to the german Hetzer from WW2 (Used till 1973)
AMX-13: (Used till 1980)
Centurion Mk 3
Centurion Mk 5
Centurion Mk 7
Centurion Mk 12
Panzer 61: 105mm Canon, 55km/h, No Stabilization from 1961
Panzer 68: Multiple versions
Pz87: Leopard 2A4

REC:
Eagle: Just like Spejdervogn M/95 from Danemark
Puch: 25 point cheap recon vehicle, no armor
Aufklärer: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, Stgw 57 with Scope
Aufklärer '90: Stgw 90, maybe Pzf 3, Stgw 90 with Scope
Fallschirmaufklärer: MP5 SD, unknown (5 men teams) (Airborne)
Alouette II: Cheap recon helicopter
Alouette III: Scout Heli (Like the french one)
Super Puma FLIR: Scout Helicopter with exceptional optics
EC635 light scout helicopter

VEHICLE:
Panzerjäger 90: Piranha 6x6 with TOW 2
10.6cm rsf Pak 58: M40 Recoilless Rifle on US Army Willys Jeep (from WW2)
Haflinger Truck with BANTAM AT Missile
Piranha 8x8: APC with .50cal for Füsiliere
Schützenpanzer 63: M113A1
Schützenpanzer 63 / 89: M113A1 with more armor
Puch, only for 5 men teams


Helicopters:
Switzerland has no attack helicopters
EC 635 Transport helicopter for small groups
Alouette III transport helicopter for small groups
Super Puma/Cougar transport helicopter for groups up to 15 men

Airplanes:
BAE Hawker Hunter with Napalm and bombs
Nothrup F-5E and F: ASF with 4 AIM-9 Sidewinders, Napalm, Bombs
Mirage IIIS: better radar and ECM than Mirage IIIC, armed with HM-55S Falcon (like AIM-26)
F/A-18C: with 2 AIM-9 and up to 6 AIM-120 AMRAMM
F/A-18D: with 2 AIM-9 and bombs (maybe make them C-Versions since Switzerland only had 8, now has 5 D-Versions and they are for training)

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Vigilante | Col. J. Smith:

Swiss Deck:

LOG:

FOB
Piranha 6x6 Kdo
Puch Kdo
Kdo Pz 63 (M113 Commando)
Saurer Truck
IVECO Truck
Raupentransportwagen 68: Its a M548

INF:
Füsiliere: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, MG51 (15 Men squad) (Maybe make them Militia)
Füsiliere '90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51 (We have M249 since 2005) (Maybe make them Regular)
Grenadiere: Stgw 57, Flammenwerfer 42/55, MG51 (Elite) (Flamethrower Inf)
Grenadiere '90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51 (Maybe give them a sniper rifle) (Airborne) (Elite)
Dragon: Stgw 57, M47 Dragon
Stinger: Stgw 57, FIM-92 A Stinger
Stinger '90: Stgw 90, FIM-92 C Stinger
Panzergrenadier: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, MG51
Panzergrenadier 90: Stgw 90, Pzf 3, MG51

For transport vehicles see in Vehicle section.

SUP:
Panzerhaubitze 66 (Something inbetween M109 and M109A2)
Panzerkanone 68: Panzer 68 with 15.5cm Artillery gun (Range: 30km, 6 rpm)
M109 KAWEST (Just like M109A5 or A6)
Panzerminenwerfer 64 (Just like the german Tampella 120mm)
Rapier was stationary (Maybe give them a mobile version)
BL-64 Bloodhound was stationary (No option to make it mobile :( )
Oerlikon 20mm: Just like the Scandinavian one (Stationary but maybe make them Mobile)
Oerlikon 35mm: Just like the Main Gun of the gepard (Stationary but maybe make them Mobile)

Prototypes:
Flab Panzer B22L: Chassis of Pz 68 with Gepard A1 Turret on it
Mowag Shark 0: Something like Piranha 8x8 with 1x 35mm Oerlikon
Mowag Shark 1: Something like Piranha 8x8 with 2x 30mm canon
Mowag Shark 2: Something like Piranha 8x8 with Crotale
Mowag Shark 3: Something like Piranha 8x8 with ADATS

TNK:
Panzerjäger G13: Similar to the german Hetzer from WW2 (Used till 1973)
AMX-13: (Used till 1980)
Centurion Mk 3
Centurion Mk 5
Centurion Mk 7
Centurion Mk 12
Panzer 61: 105mm Canon, 55km/h, No Stabilization from 1961
Panzer 68: Multiple versions
Pz87: Leopard 2A4

REC:
Eagle: Just like Spejdervogn M/95 from Danemark
Puch: 25 point cheap recon vehicle, no armor
Aufklärer: Stgw 57, Rak Rohr 8.3cm, Stgw 57 with Scope
Fallschirmaufklärer: MP5 SD, unknown (5 men teams) (Airborne)
Alouette II: Cheap recon helicopter
Alouette III: Scout Heli (Like the french one)
Super Puma FLIR: Scout Helicopter with exceptional optics
EC635 light scout helicopter

VEHICLE:
Panzerjäger 90: Piranha 6x6 with TOW 2
M40 Recoilless Rifle on US Army Jeep (from WW2)
Haflinger Truck with BANTAM AT Missile
Piranha 8x8: APC with .50cal for Füsiliere
Schützenpanzer 63: M113A1
Schützenpanzer 63 / 89: M113A1 with more armor
Puch, only for 5 men teams


Helicopters:
Switzerland has no attack helicopters
EC 635 Transport helicopter for small groups
Alouette III transport helicopter for small groups
Super Puma/Cougar transport helicopter for groups up to 15 men
Airplanes:
BAE Hawker Hunter with Napalm and bombs
Nothrup F-5E and F: ASF with 4 AIM-9 Sidewinders, Napalm, Bombs
Mirage IIIS: better radar and ECM than Mirage IIIC, armed with HM-55S Falcon (like AIM-26)
F/A-18C: with 2 AIM-9 and up to 6 AIM-120 AMRAMM
F/A-18D: with 2 AIM-9 and bombs

And Switzerland was active in what alliance during the cold war?

As far as I know, they were neutral, so they weren't part of the block nor the NATO.

Israel already is an non-cold war country, so let's not add an other one. I would prefer them to update already existing nations.

[alessandro.mengozzi]

They also have had unitl the mid-'90s some awesome bicycle infantry companies > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_army_bicycle

[Col. Smith | Vigilante]

LOL How would you want to add those to the game? ;)

@Jean-Christophe: I didn't say anything about it, just so we could imagine what the deck would look like.

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Vigilante | Col. J. Smith:

LOL How would you want to add those to the game? ;)

@Jean-Christophe: I didn't say anything about it, just so we could imagine what the deck would look like.

And I didn't say your posting was wrong, I am just saying that Swiss was neutral and won't be a part of the game.

So why even posting how the deck could lock like?

[Col. Smith | Vigilante]

Maybe it's interesting

[Martian Patriot]

Originally posted by Nero:

We could go full alternate reality like they did with the norks that have T-90.

But North Korea did and does have T-90s. They are/were a special export only model that the Russian Federation sold to them in generous numbers. The same export model was also sold to India in large numbers and a modified version of said T-90s serves as India's main service MBT.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Nirk the Man-Thing Stab-Cutter:

Originally posted by Nero:

We could go full alternate reality like they did with the norks that have T-90.

But North Korea did and does have T-90s. They are/were a special export only model that the Russian Federation sold to them in generous numbers. The same export model was also sold to India in large numbers and a modified version of said T-90s serves as India's main service MBT.

Interesting. From what I read Eugen made up some alternate events to give them T-90. Maybe they have T-90 now in 2010+ but not in the 90s.

[Martian Patriot]

Originally posted by Nero:

Originally posted by Nirk the Man-Thing Stab-Cutter:

But North Korea did and does have T-90s. They are/were a special export only model that the Russian Federation sold to them in generous numbers. The same export model was also sold to India in large numbers and a modified version of said T-90s serves as India's main service MBT.

Interesting. From what I read Eugen made up some alternate events to give them T-90. Maybe they have T-90 now in 2010+ but not in the 90s.

Yeah I'm not sure when such exports took place.