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Zero 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:04
Dr. Fetus going on my "Never pick up again" list
Every time I pick this thing up my damage drops to hilarious levels. I'd rather have default tears. At least then I can rapid-fire to make up the difference and not worry about nuking myself. About the only advantage Dr. Fetus offers is free access to every secret room, but that's not enough to compensate for the sheer loss of offensive power.

How far the mighty have fallen. I don't even want to unlock Epic Fetus at this rate because the last thing I need is another troll item replacing the useful pickups. Seriously, yeah it was kinda OP before, but how exactly is nerfing it THIS far the answer? And how can anyone excuse nerfing Fetus when Brimstone has so many bonkers OP synergies it's a guarenteed win? The logic just fails me.
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Cactus™ 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:12 
I like Dr. Fetus, he got me to ???, Epic Fetus is the probably the hardest to use.
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Moucheron Quipet 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:18 
Epic Fetus is the same as it was in the original game : a guaranteed free win.

Dr Fetus is ok with some synergies, but yea it became a lot weaker.
#2
ginganinja714 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:36 
It's not WEAK, per se. They just changed the mechanics of Dr Fetus so that it scales with your damage now. A change I actually like since it's not a gamebreaking instant-win anymore. Then again, they DID buff Brimstone and Mom's Knife with all those synergies...

Picking up some damage-ups or some bomb modifiers (Bob's Curse, Sad Bombs, Pyromaniac etc) early on should make it a ton easier.

I find Fetus is a lot better the earlier you get it, since you have ample chance to upgrade. Same with Soy Milk. Getting that on the first floor, then lucking out with a Pentagram or some such, pretty much makes it a won run.
最後修改者：ginganinja714; 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:45
#3
Cactus™ 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 MoucheronQuipet：
Epic Fetus is the same as it was in the original game : a guaranteed free win.

Dr Fetus is ok with some synergies, but yea it became a lot weaker.
How is it a free win? I'd only see it as that if you had Pyromanaic, since the bombs can damage you and you have to wait for the bombs to fall.
#4
Moonfang 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 1:52 
Dr fetus is weak on its own, but certain synergies can make it good.
Epic fetus is a insta win and it is just as powerful as it was in the original. The only time it isn't really a 100% chance of a insta win and has a chance to fail you is if you get triple adversaries or double adversaries, or something like that...
最後修改者：Moonfang; 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:36
#5
Gionni Bagutti 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:34 
I remember I got my first chest win with blue baby using the solid combo quad shot/dr. fetus.
dr fetus should be always taken on floor 1-2, it can get some awesome synergies later in the game, but like if you're on the depths, man, just don't pick it up, it can ruin everything.

you know what, it would be cool if dr fetus could be as powerful as it was in vanilla but super rare, maybe it could compensate for the awesome damaging potential
最後修改者：Gionni Bagutti; 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:35
#6
Uncle Piccolo 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:47 
Speaking of dr fetus I just went in a 1 dice room and got dr fetus with rapid fire, bobs curse, and pyromaniac along with a few damage ups it was op
#7
DarkTwinge 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 5:38 
Epic Fetus deals your Damage x 20, and is one of the absolute strongest items in the game.

Dr. Fetus deals your Damage x 3, and is a weaker item but can be very strong with some setups. Unintuitively, you gain +50 damage with poison effects (Scorpio, Bob's Curse) but you won't scale with all Bomb Upgrades (e.g. Sad Bombs). It's also one of the strongest combos in the game with Ipecac, where the bombs will no longer hurt you and will explode on cotnact.
#8
Kirbincho 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 5:42 
Hey, nobody mentioned the Remote Detonator, it makes every Dr.Fetus really easy.
#9
Icedfate 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:22 
引用自 Twinge：
Epic Fetus deals your Damage x 20, and is one of the absolute strongest items in the game.

Dr. Fetus deals your Damage x 3, and is a weaker item but can be very strong with some setups. Unintuitively, you gain +50 damage with poison effects (Scorpio, Bob's Curse) but you won't scale with all Bomb Upgrades (e.g. Sad Bombs). It's also one of the strongest combos in the game with Ipecac, where the bombs will no longer hurt you and will explode on cotnact.


i'm confused, why does combining feteus + ipecac make you immune to your bombs? i thought you needed pyromania
#10
Uncle Piccolo 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:32 
引用自 eviltwin61878：
引用自 Twinge：
Epic Fetus deals your Damage x 20, and is one of the absolute strongest items in the game.

Dr. Fetus deals your Damage x 3, and is a weaker item but can be very strong with some setups. Unintuitively, you gain +50 damage with poison effects (Scorpio, Bob's Curse) but you won't scale with all Bomb Upgrades (e.g. Sad Bombs). It's also one of the strongest combos in the game with Ipecac, where the bombs will no longer hurt you and will explode on cotnact.
1 word SYNERGY

i'm confused, why does combining feteus + ipecac make you immune to your bombs? i thought you needed pyromania
#11
Icedfate 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:35 
引用自 Festive PancakePenguin：
引用自 eviltwin61878：
1 word SYNERGY

i'm confused, why does combining feteus + ipecac make you immune to your bombs? i thought you needed pyromania


yeah i know what synergy is, but if you have dr fetus, you are not immune to your own shots.
if you use ipecic, your own shots can hurt you.

why do those 2 items synergize with each other and you suddenly become immune?
#12
DarkTwinge 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:43 
引用自 eviltwin61878：
yeah i know what synergy is, but if you have dr fetus, you are not immune to your own shots.
if you use ipecic, your own shots can hurt you.

why do those 2 items synergize with each other and you suddenly become immune?

No logical reason. Likewise with poison effects massively increasing Dr. Fetus damage. "Because reasons."
#13
Rosy Maple 2014 年 12 月 19 日 下午 9:52 
Dr. Fetus just doesn't do enough damage anymore. There's actually a few things that I think could salvage it, but right now it's just a perfect storm of bad. It takes 3-4 hits to kill some of the tougher monsters even with damage ups which means you'll end up actually killing enemies much slower than if you had normal tears. This would be alright if you could shoot bombs faster, but unfortunately no matter how many tears upgrades you get, if you shoot too fast you'll end up eating one of your own bombs because they knock each other around with their explosions (usually right into you). It's just not worth picking up at all anymore. I think with a small buff it would be a lot more viable though.
#14
Icedfate 2014 年 12 月 20 日 上午 10:19 
the only positive thing i can say about dr fetus, they fixed the bug from the old game where the bombs would just fly through some of the enemies...especially those red guys that get back up, that room was almost impossible with dr fetus in the old isaac
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