Best way to find Black Lotus?

[1337Walrus]

It's one of the final items I need. Along with Transcendence and Skeleton Key. The others I could find pretty easily, but these...

[Jatjacob1]

BROLY 32 a écrit :

I played TBOI (original one) yesterday just to get a feel of how it was again.
Got an item in EVERY SINGLE secret room from basement 1 to the chest.
I went through the entire secret room pool. From Transcendence to Epic Foetus, in my first game, without even trying.

I barely found 15 secret rooms with items in them in my entire Rebirth history, maybe less. And I usually go to almost all of them.
So yeah, screw this nerf...

The nerf isn't super horrible given that the secret room pool contains mostly mediocre items, but it's a nightmare when trying to fill the collection page.

[ZoidbergForPresident]

They are pretty rare indeed those secret rooms... and I got a lotus from it quite early. :P

[Black Hammer]

Kinne a écrit :

Just play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. If you play that game, you will eventually unlock everything. Stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tryhard, trying to unlock everything in 3 hours. Just play the game normally and you WILL get it. Stop waiting for it and just. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Play.

Three hours, you'd have a point. But after 110 hours? The guy deserves his item. I got it on my fifth run.

[Lintire]

I've spent about 22 hours trying to get a Skeleton Key from a secret room. Yeah. I still haven't gotten it, and have sort of just taken a break from the game from sheer frustration and having my spirit and hope broken and crushed like a working dog's, but I'll share some of the methods I've come up with trying to get it.

• Clear out the first with D6 Isaac, which you should already have. This takes 45 to 120 seconds. Then deduce where the Secret Room is from that. Plant the bomb. Restart if there's no item.

Now Rebirth Secret Room spawns are a little weird compared to the original. The rule of thumbs (three rooms surrounding means a guaranteed spawn, will always spawn next to an item or shop if it can) don't really apply, and I've found that - at least on the first floor - Secret Rooms can spawn in the middle of nowhere. It's not great.

I've also found that the rates of a Secret Room Item spawn are about 10%, compared to the originals' 90%. Yeah. Most I've had to wait is 18 attempts. Keep a tally, and listen to some podcast, it'll delay the amount of time it takes to go insane.

• Wait until Depths I, and then defeat Greed/Super Greed and reroll Steam Sale. Alternatively, spawn a Blood Donor Machine or Beggar and have them spawn an item and reroll that. Alternatively, Pandora's Box.

Any item rerolled within the Secret Room rerolls to the Secret Room item pool. You can even bomb Secret Room along the way.

• Set up a Sparkplug/Explosive Tears/D6/Pyromaniac infinite reroll combo, and then use one of the above two methods to reroll an item. This actually guarantees the item, but considering the absurdly low chances for an item spawn or even a Sin spawn this could take anywhere from 10-20 attempts, and each attempt could run you up to 45 minutes. I gave it about 5, myself.

• Cut off your tongue. Mail it to Edmund McMillen. It's what he wants. It's obvious that's what he wants. And when you start crying tears of blood, rub them gently into your screen for increased luck.

He hates you. He hates me. He hates all of us.

Edmund McMillen.

[Vallen]

Is it really that hard to find super greed in a secret room when you are on a breaking run? Just reroll steam sale til you get it, it wont take long.

[BROLY 32]

Vallen a écrit :

Is it really that hard to find super greed in a secret room when you are on a breaking run? Just reroll steam sale til you get it, it wont take long.

I've only met him 5 times in a secret room so far and he dropped an item 3/5 times.
So yeah, sounds kinda hard.

[1337Walrus]

I lucked out and got it, the Skeleton Key, and that noose, all I need is Missing No. now. I used Temperance and abused Scapular to spawn an IV Bag and rerolled it into Black Lotus using D6 + Sharp Plug.

[Rushin]

Lucathegreat a écrit :

Secret rooms suck, the quickest way I've found is to start a run with Isaac, plant the bomb on a random wall of the first room, if there's a secret room, reroll in case. If not, restart immediately.
On Normal the map is tiny, so there are good chances for the secret room to be right near you.

You sir are a genius. Black Lotus was one of the only three items I haven't found yet. I used your strategy and got it within half an hour. It was the second secret-room-with-an-item-in-it that I found during this farming fest. Here's a screenshot (check the timer too) http://i.imgur.com/bcBUMZK.png I must be some lucky bastard. Anyway I do recommend this method folks; the secret rooms tend to appear more often than you might think they would.