WHAT'S WITH THE BLOAT?!

[jonathan testicle]

Edit: I was really mad at the time of writing this. I don't mean to sound mean, just know that.

There are two bosses in this game that are just cheap and unfair. I'll get into the other soon, but I'm talking about the Bloat.
He is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE in some cases, especially if you can't fly. First off, the brimstone lasers. He gives absolutely no warning before firing them, and you can only hit him with standard straight shots safely from behind because of this. But most of the time, he jumps towards you, so that's out. And if you can get past all of this, the eyes. They will hunt you down the SECOND you're cornered and end your life. I has a Judas with 6 hearts and my first there's options along with 20/20 and the Ouija Board, plus some other crap. I have beaten Isaac 4 times and Satan 2, so you'd think I could take out any other lower boss, right? NOPE. I died before he was down to half health.

Next up, the Mask of Infamy. If you don't have piercing and/or fast shots, you have NO chance with this boss. The first part is mildly challenging, and most players can get through it. But when you have you get it from behind.. that's when it gets unfair. The one time you get to, I'll bet he turns just as the shots are about to hit. I know, he was nerfed from the original, but he is still just a cheap unfair boss. Why does it take longer than any other? Because of his attacks? Because he has a lot of health? NO. BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE HIT.

Someone needs to get to nerfing these, either that or please share your opinions/tips below. I am so pissed off I lost that Judas, because I haven't gotten something that awesome for a LONG time.

[Shadowpaw]

I found that it's easier to hit the Mask of Infamy from the side. If you're far enough away from him, he won't charge at you immediately, so you can walk parallel with him and fling your tears to hit him from the side.
Even then, he's an extremely annoying boss to fight and ruins any hope of getting the boss rush. He should definitely not be nerfed, but does need some sort of rework.

As for the Bloat, screw you Bloat. I hate you so much.

[Fadamix]

>I have beaten Isaac 4 times and Satan 2, so you'd think I could take out any other lower boss, right?
I have got Platinum God in classic Isaac, almost Platinum and Real Platinum God here (3 babies left + Godhead), still can't dodge Dingle and always die as noob at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spiders and Haunt. Any questions?

[G3ro]

If you're counting how many times you've killed Isaac or Satan, it's pretty clear that your skills can still improve plenty. Strafe shots solve a lot of problems.

[jareddm3]

There already is a warning for the Bloat. You were standing horizontal or directly in front of him. There's your warning.

[dokluch]

No problems with these two, just be more accurate. As for me, Mostro II is the problem, he's got so much health, and in the Boss Rush he's the hardest part (imho)

[Demodulated]

For Bloat, step in front of him and then dodge away to force him to shoot his brimstone tears. This creates a short opening for you to attack.

For Mask, after you kill the heart you can shoot the mask from the side through its eyeholes. That's usually easier than attacking from behind.

[Combo Smooth]

bombs help out a ton in both cases.

Bloat, you can stand under his sideways brimstone eyes and still attack him. Or when he jumps, just leave a bomb where you were standing.
infamy is annoying as hell if you don't have the right items or a good amount of bombs

[Phelsarus'Beel]

From a personal standpoint Bloat is fine as he is yes hes tough but thats the thing with Isaacs RNG sometimes you get an easy boss and sometimes you get one that can realy ruin your day and Bloat is certaintly in the latter category but for that we also have bosses like War, Loki and the Wretched that are in the same Bosspools for those floors

Also the only thing i find somewhat BS about Bloat is his Sidelaserhitbox because i can count a few times where i got hit without even being near the laser

[S/\GI]

I hate him. I hate him so much :p
He ruined one of the best builds I ever had with the Lost and killed me in Womb I.
Luckily I had an almost equally good run afterwards but still, I don´t think I ever killed the Bloat without getting hit atleast once.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Loputousu:

Originally posted by aritsche:

What about the fallen. I ALWAYS have trouble with him because of his curved brimstone lasers

Do you mean the Adversary? I keep circling around him to dodge his Brimstone attack.

That's how you do it unless its a double boss room and they both decide to back up against different walls.

[ChannelDPRK]

the bloat can suck my ♥♥♥♥

[quilennnn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjia9dDzu-g
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v_3KDex-20

you should rage more because they are in the original game

[quilennnn]

Originally posted by lolznoboz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjia9dDzu-g
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v_3KDex-20

you should rage more because they are in the original game

and the haunt ain't that bad

[Phaper]

Originally posted by Endy73:

Bloat is piece of cake. Just try to stay above his head and he' ll never shoot brimstone.

That works fine.

As long as he doesn't fire his triple Ipecac shot, spread creep, jump so that his back is to the wall, or end up walling you with the floating eyes.

He's not impossible, just difficult.

But his difficulty is 'fake', because his different attacks either cannot be dodged, or end up trapping you unless you have a high speed stat + flying.

Your ability to deal with him effectively is very largely based on the room and what items you have going in, rather than your own dodging skills and 'reading'.

[moist]

♥♥♥♥ BLOAT