Missing No. and 1up!

[Neocronic]

Chance to find these items in the secret room is 0.000000001%? I already played 153 hours and a 90% chance in the secret room spawns Black Lotus or Raw liver. These 2 items (Missing No. and 1up!) do not allow me take last 2 achievements (Platinum god and Real platinum god).

[Slindish]

This maths seems suspect.

[Smidge204]

D6 all the things.

Also, the Key beggar you sometimes find in secret rooms can spawn chests that contain secret room items, so that's another potential route. Spend a bunch of keys in hopes of getting one or two items then use the D6 on them.

[Neocronic]

Publicado originalmente por Smidge204:

D6 all the things.

Also, the Key beggar you sometimes find in secret rooms can spawn chests that contain secret room items, so that's another potential route. Spend a bunch of keys in hopes of getting one or two items then use the D6 on them.

Items received through D6 are not counted to collection. Only those that have already been in the secret room.

[Smidge204]

Publicado originalmente por Neocronic:

Items received through D6 are not counted to collection. Only those that have already been in the secret room.

What?

If you're in the secret room, and you use the D6 to change an item spawned in the secret room to another item, that new item has a fairly good chance to also be a secret room item. If it is, it counts towards your collection when you pick it up even if it's never spawned "naturally."

All that matters is:

1) The item is unlocked, if unlocking is necessary

2) You are in an appropriate area so you are drawing from the appropriate item pool (e.g. shop, boss room, angel/devil room, secret room etc)

3) The item has not been exhausted from the item pool by appearing before in the current run.


Don't tell me it doesn't count just because you used a D6 to get it - my Real Platinum God status will tell you where to shove that claim! :)

[Neocronic]

I tested it on 5 items earlier. Items which appeared after the use D6 was not counted in the collection. Or it could be in an earlier version of the game, at the moment it is not working.

[Guav]

Funny thing is, I have the opposite problem. I've gotten Skeleton Key, 1UP and MissingNo but I haven't gotten Black Lotus or Raw Liver.

[Neocronic]

Publicado originalmente por JGDAWG:

Funny thing is, I have the opposite problem. I've gotten Skeleton Key, 1UP and MissingNo but I haven't gotten Black Lotus or Raw Liver.

[Leo]

I heard spawning a begger in the secret room, and rerolling the item it gives you, should give out secret room items. Not sure if it's true though.

Also where did you get the idea that items received from the d6 do not count towards the collection? It is incredibly false.

[Smidge204]

Publicado originalmente por leosapathy:

I heard spawning a begger in the secret room, and rerolling the item it gives you, should give out secret room items. Not sure if it's true though

It's true - I got the 1-UP that way (rerolling a Key beggar item). Note that rerolling does not guarantee a secret room item (you can get a general item instead), but you must be in the secret room to have any chance get a secret room item.

[reevo]

Items via D4 don't count in collection page. The D6 is legit.
Scapular + sharp plug + D6 + D20.
This is a lil' bit "cheaty" doe. ( But that didn't stoped me c: )
Or just get judgement /wheel of fortune/ temperance in secret room. Play the sh*t out of them until they break and reroll.

[Omertoso]

Missing No. is the last item I need for Real Platinum God. Just restarting the ♥♥♥♥ out of Basement I, bombing the closest wall and hoping it's a secret room with an item.

Do Eden's starting items count towards the collection?

[Guav]

Publicado originalmente por Tonakai:

Missing No. is the last item I need for Real Platinum God. Just restarting the ♥♥♥♥ out of Basement I, bombing the closest wall and hoping it's a secret room with an item.

Do Eden's starting items count towards the collection?

I believe not, due to the way the D4 works. It seems as though you must 'pick up' an item to add it to your collection.

[asl pls thx]

Publicado originalmente por Neocronic:

Chance to find these items in the secret room is 0.000000001%? I already played 153 hours and a 90% chance in the secret room spawns Black Lotus or Raw liver. These 2 items (Missing No. and 1up!) do not allow me take last 2 achievements (Platinum god and Real platinum god).:sfsad:

This was the the same issue I had, it took me almost 50 hours or more alone just to find the 1UP. The ironic thing I found it after giving up a few days later just playing a normal Isaac run.

[MrMcMonkey]

Publicado originalmente por Tonakai:

Do Eden's starting items count towards the collection?

yes, got some with Eden

[Neocronic]

93 eden tokens = 1up x1 and 0 Missing No.