The Bloat smh

[Afterdark]

This has got to be the hardest dam boss of the game. I see all these nerf threads for easy bosses and none for the Bloat are you kidding me? This boss can end a perfect run in seconds. His eyes bounce around the room so you got to constantly be moving, he jumps firing blood shots in all dam directions. He creates creeps at will and fires brimstone on every side of him.
The worst part of it all he has no tells so you cant even prepair for any of his attacks.

If you do not have atleast 6 or more hearts and thats being generous I cant see beating this boss without getting hit. Either they made this boss to ♥♥♥♥ people off or they were smoking crack when they created him.

[Whitelink]

Originally posted by t2ainw2eck:

I see all these nerf threads for easy bosses and none for the Bloat are you kidding me?

Because all those threads are trolls.

And yeah, Bloat is one of the hardest bosses in the game. You can cheese him pretty easily though, just stand on his left/right, just under the brimstone, and move right and left to dodge eyes. Now i get hit twice at the absolute max, but at the beginning I could lose like 8 hearts in 30 seconds. It just takes practice to finally kill him rather quickly.

Unless you get that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ double Bloat room in the Chest

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

The Cage & The Gate are cheaper than The Bloat imo.

[Afterdark]

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

The Cage & The Gate are cheaper than The Bloat imo.

The cage isnt that bad except the fact he has a lot of hp, I can usually dodge his jump attack.The gate is easy imo, his tells arent that bad once you learn his pattern.

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

Originally posted by t2ainw2eck:

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

The Cage & The Gate are cheaper than The Bloat imo.

The cage isnt that bad except the fact he has a lot of hp, I can usually dodge his jump attack.The gate is easy imo, his tells arent that bad once you learn his pattern.

That's the only reason why Cage is hard and 2 of them at the same time is not fun. The Gate's beams are unpredictable, the beam's curve is always different.

[Misery]

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

Originally posted by t2ainw2eck:

The cage isnt that bad except the fact he has a lot of hp, I can usually dodge his jump attack.The gate is easy imo, his tells arent that bad once you learn his pattern.

That's the only reason why Cage is hard and 2 of them at the same time is not fun. The Gate's beams are unpredictable, the beam's curve is always different.

According to the wiki, the Gate's beam curves to strike any leapers (which it summons) that are in the room at the time (and it pops them). Kill any that it spawns ASAP, and you keep his obnoxious beam under control.

I honestly hadnt realized/noticed that at all until I actually read about it on there.

[Momo-senpai]

yep the bloat is so OP
the hardest for sure

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

Originally posted by Misery:

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

That's the only reason why Cage is hard and 2 of them at the same time is not fun. The Gate's beams are unpredictable, the beam's curve is always different.

According to the wiki, the Gate's beam curves to strike any leapers (which it summons) that are in the room at the time (and it pops them). Kill any that it spawns ASAP, and you keep his obnoxious beam under control.

I honestly hadnt realized/noticed that at all until I actually read about it on there.

That's bs, I played alot of OP runs where he used his beam without any leapers around.

[Mooncrest]

Speaking of the Bloat, his champion variant has to be the most obnoxious boss to fight without flight or high dps >.>

[Wayward]

Originally posted by Delta:

Speaking of the Bloat, his champion variant has to be the most obnoxious boss to fight without flight or high dps >.>

Green bloat confirmed for worse than satan.
Seriously, screw those explosive shots.

[Misery]

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

Originally posted by Misery:

According to the wiki, the Gate's beam curves to strike any leapers (which it summons) that are in the room at the time (and it pops them). Kill any that it spawns ASAP, and you keep his obnoxious beam under control.

I honestly hadnt realized/noticed that at all until I actually read about it on there.

That's bs, I played alot of OP runs where he used his beam without any leapers around.

*shrugs* Look it up yourself, it's right on there. Complete with a picture of it happening (you can see the blood splatters where the leapers are being hit).

Could be a bug if he's doing it without. I dunno. I've never had a problem with that boss.

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

Originally posted by Misery:

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

That's bs, I played alot of OP runs where he used his beam without any leapers around.

*shrugs* Look it up yourself, it's right on there. Complete with a picture of it happening (you can see the blood splatters where the leapers are being hit).

Could be a bug if he's doing it without. I dunno. I've never had a problem with that boss.

You never got the bad luck or never had a long fight with him then. And it's not automatically legit just because it's on the game's wiki, it could be written by a guy who knows just as much as you do (no offense).

[Jabelonske]

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

Originally posted by Misery:

*shrugs* Look it up yourself, it's right on there. Complete with a picture of it happening (you can see the blood splatters where the leapers are being hit).

Could be a bug if he's doing it without. I dunno. I've never had a problem with that boss.

You never got the bad luck or never had a long fight with him then. And it's not automatically legit just because it's on the game's wiki, it could be written by a guy who knows just as much as you do (no offense).

He fires to hit the leapers he spawned, that's confirmed. But it doesn't have to happen always, if there aren't any leapers around when he shoots, it'll go straight down, so just kill everything and stay away from the middle of the room.

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

Originally posted by krawby:

Originally posted by Redly Red.2015:

You never got the bad luck or never had a long fight with him then. And it's not automatically legit just because it's on the game's wiki, it could be written by a guy who knows just as much as you do (no offense).

He fires to hit the leapers he spawned, that's confirmed. But it doesn't have to happen always, if there aren't any leapers around when he shoots, it'll go straight down, so just kill everything and stay away from the middle of the room.

Well I wouldn't complain about him in the first place if the beam was straight, but it's not. I'll try to get a screenshot of it when I get back to it.

[Solo Death]

Yep, bloat's a jerk. I personally hate mask of infamy more though, at least without any way to attack it from the front. Most of the reason why I hate the mask more is because it moves so weirdly and I've never really got the hang of dealing with it very well.

[beautheschmo]

Mask is one of my least favorite too, especially since unlike most bosses, you can occasionally make it almost impossible to kill her without taking a lot of hits. Having low range, or god forbid shot speed low enoughthat your tears travel slower than the mask (which is accomplished by picking up basically any item that lowers shot speed, since your base tears are barely faster than her) , you basically have to hug her to land anything. I've had some runs where I've literally had to kill her with only contact damage because my tears physically could not connect, and you're basically guaranteed to lose 4+ hearts that way.

Bloat is a PITA, though honestly, I hate Peep more. Peep can show up at a point where you only have access to 5 guaranteed items (3 item rooms, 2 boss rooms), and there are more than enough bad items that you can get easily screwed on it. Bloat shows up very late, and more often than not you are at least equipped to kill him. Even worse, Peep has the same HP as Bloat, so it's always going to take longer to kill, unless you got 0 DPS items in the first 4 floors (not likely given that a good chunk of boss drops are damage boosts), and tends to have a more annoying arena (that room with two vertical rock lines gets all my hate). Champion Peep is easily the worst Caves boss, it's basically Bloat without the Brimstone, which is honestly the least aggravating part of the fight to begin with.

I have never, ever had problems with the Gate, I always assumed it was a gimme boss (I would call him the Pin of Depths/Necro if Loki didn't exist) until I saw people hating on it.