Book of Rev always spawns Conquest???

[PapiCuatro]

I am only missing 12 achievements on this game and I really do love it, but two of the achievements are the infamous super meat boy/super bandage girl achievements. I've been doing eden runs and have gotten lucky and just started with the book of rev four times now, and have made it all the way to Womb 1 three of those times (had a double trouble depths 1 once). ALL THREE TIMES CONQUEST HAS SHOWED UP. Is it even possible to get it this way or is it pure bad luck on that last spawn? Anybody know the percentage chance that Conquest has to show up? Because for an alt, he's around a 90% chance to appear for me. I hardly ever see Death.

[730]

I haven't gotten to the point where I'm trying to get that achievement but everyone complains about getting Conquest and not Death, so I guess Conquest is more common. Just keep trying maybe?

[glass]

Conquest being more "common" is probably a confirmation bias.

People who get death won't be on the forum complaining.

[wckowalski]

I've taken book of revelations all the way down 4 times. Once I got bandage girl from death, twice I got Conquest, and once it was a double size room with Mr. Fred.

[PapiCuatro]

Ah, so it can be done. That's all I wanted to know. Thank you wckowalski! As for you glass, thank you for not helping at all. Not sure why you even commented.

[Chewy102]

The book makes a horseman spawn in a non double room on the 1st floor of a tile set. The deeper you go the lower the odds are for the right horseman to spawn. Conquest and Headless always have their chance as well as Fred.

Pain. In. The. ass. to get either of the 4 parts legit. Better to go for those 2 ASAP the MOMENT you unlock the horsemen and before you unlock Conquest/headless. Fred is still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Fred.

[Abby]

This is the worst part for me: I've made it to the Womb a couple times with the Book of Rev. The first couple times I got Mr. Fred. The next time I got Conquest. Disapointing, but I'm fine, I can expect this stuff. Next run, I get a double boss room instead of War. Okay, now I'm pissed. I can deal with making to the womb and failing, but losing my chances early on is just cruel. Especailly when, I make it to the Womb, and there is Death staring me in the face, and laughing. Next run I try, I get Bandage Girl (Woot). Now I'm actively trying for Meat Boy, and I nearly always have a ball of bandages drop from Famine, which is annoying as I spend 30 minutes resetting to get a Book of Rev. at the start. Finally, in my most recent run through with the Book of Rev. that dropped a cube of meat: I beat Famine, War, and Death, but back in Cave 1, I had fought a Double Trouble [Green] Larry Jr. Thus I could not get my 4th meat cube. (For anyone curious, Gurdy was in Caves 2). Frankly the double boss rooms piss me off more that Conquest ever could. At least Conquest is a Horsemen, Unlike double troubles of Mr. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Fred. I almost never run into Headless either...

[Chewy102]

I say go for a good old game breaking combo like I did for Meatboy. A few ways to do this but there are 3 things that MUST happen.


1- You need HP regen NOT linked to mob help.
So you either need placenta with a LOT and a LOT of time or a bomb tear/pyromaniac combo. No farming explosive mobs with pryomaniac or goblins (meatmen) with Charm of the Vampire or the followers you spawn with MM will just kill them.

2- An item charger.
Sharp plug or Habit. No choices and if you go for the Habit you need a damage source like fire or spikes.

3- Monster Manual


Then spam the ever living hell out of MM till you RNG the cube/ball 4 times without leaving the room. This can take a while but doable if your PC can take all those followers and both can be got at once. Problems with this combo are just getting all items in the same run and parying to what god/s you have that you don't get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by RNG. Helps to restart till you get pyromaniac.

You can also force the game to give you this combo. Just get the HP regen (mob help can be used for this), item charger, a spare item, and a way to "seed" 2 rooms with a number of any pickups each. Then roll an item with the D6 till you get the D20 and roll the seeded rooms till you seed them with 2+ items (the more the faster you go) from gold/stone chests. Go back to the D6 and roll till you get the combo. BUT, if you get MM before the D20 the run has failed and MAKE CERTAIN you seed at LEAST 2 rooms to account for getting the MM early after getting the D20 and not having a way to roll its room without loosing MM.