The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Laid 2014 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:05
What's the worst character in the game?
It's The Lost! He starts with zero health, he can't gain health, and the only special thing he can do is fly. (Which Azazel can also do.)

But seriously The Lost is there for people who like a challenge.
最后由 Laid 编辑于; 2014 年 11 月 8 日 下午 10:10
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sure 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 5:19 
引用自 Doniazade
引用自 bayleaf0034
There is no worst character, they all are balanced or for people who want a challenge
Except for Azazel then who fills in for the missing easy mode setting.

Azazel is kinda bad against the main late-game bosses (Hush, Dilerium and Ultra Greed) because of his atrocious range. Sure there are items that make it managable, but that's the same for every character.
Gallant T Derg 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 5:56 
引用自 Swanky Toast
引用自 Doniazade
Except for Azazel then who fills in for the missing easy mode setting.

Azazel is kinda bad against the main late-game bosses (Hush, Dilerium and Ultra Greed) because of his atrocious range. Sure there are items that make it managable, but that's the same for every character.
I don't recall having too many issues when I fought Hush with Azazel, and I had his starting mini-Brimstone. Though I did have the Glowing Hourglass on standby as a failsafe, and I did end up having to use it once.
最后由 Gallant T Derg 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 5:56
Rio 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:02 
引用自 Swanky Toast
引用自 Doniazade
Except for Azazel then who fills in for the missing easy mode setting.

Azazel is kinda bad against the main late-game bosses (Hush, Dilerium and Ultra Greed) because of his atrocious range. Sure there are items that make it managable, but that's the same for every character.

2 years ago, which is the age of the post your responding too those bosses didn't exist.
Rubik748 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:07 
Then there is Keeper.

Perhaps there should be a Necromancer character?
Blargo 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:12 
引用自 The Dude
Good point you made there.
Ya done necro'd a thread from 2014...
最后由 Blargo 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:12
Slurp Dog CDXX 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:26 
I would argue the Keeper is more difficult than the Lost. At least now that the Lost starts with Holy Mantle, that is. They can both take one hit without dying, but the Lost can do it once per room whereas the Keeper, while able to take more than one hit per room technically, needs to pick up a coin which is much less consistent. Also, flying and spectral tears are WORLDS better than triple shot. Health upgrades don't benefit either of them, but at least the Lost can take devil deals for free whereas the Keeper cannot. Overall, I'd say that in MOST cases (which is to say, runs where you don't get special money-generating items) Keeper is the "worst" character.
Dr. Uncredible 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:38 
Holy hells, that´s some advanced necromancy right there, let´s let this one return to the abyss, y´ wanna talk character quality, make a new thread, this one has been dead for years!
UwU 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:54 
Why hardest is worse?
For me it's Lazarus. Nothing really special on start and bad stats.
Rio 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:57 
引用自 Volodya Walrus
Why hardest is worse?
For me it's Lazarus. Nothing really special on start and bad stats.

Laz stars with the ability to revive any time once and he can use it for a free devil deal. The pill he starts with you can R it until its tears up/hp up/speed up/whatever you need so the rest of the run is a cakewalk.

He's extremely good.
最后由 Rio 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 6:58
UwU 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 3:15 
Yeah... tears up pill that gonna help me for sure and take 1 item from devil deal and respawn with 1 heart (when I can take this item with Isaac and have same ♥♥♥♥).
Still can't call other characters bad, so he's worst for me.
最后由 UwU 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 3:33
Rio 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 3:36 
引用自 Volodya Walrus
Yeah... tears up pill that gonna help me for sure and take 1 item from devil deal and respawn with 1 heart (when I can take this item with Isaac and have same ♥♥♥♥).

Yeah it will help a ton since for the rest of the run you'll have a good chance of finding that pill again. Like a health up pill can mean you get tons of free hp for the rest of the run. Then theres a chance for placebo to be in a shop.

Also isaac is unfair to compare to almost any other characer because D6 + 1 bomb is OP.
Ineri 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 3:48 
The Keeper. Probably the hardest character to play with.
UwU 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 4:16 
引用自 Sashie
引用自 Volodya Walrus
Yeah... tears up pill that gonna help me for sure and take 1 item from devil deal and respawn with 1 heart (when I can take this item with Isaac and have same ♥♥♥♥).

Yeah it will help a ton since for the rest of the run you'll have a good chance of finding that pill again. Like a health up pill can mean you get tons of free hp for the rest of the run. Then theres a chance for placebo to be in a shop.

Also isaac is unfair to compare to almost any other characer because D6 + 1 bomb is OP.
Nah. I'm just like Cobalt. Doesn't like pills =P
SakuraKoi 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 4:34 
Well, just some thoughts...

Isaac certainly is not if you unlocked the D6 and even without...

Maggy, has a Yum Heart and extra health but is slow, rather than worst in the sense of whatever (strength/survivability), she is good for bad players who tend to get hit often and don't get a devil deal most of the time which, if you'd be any other character, works stocking up on red hearts. She is bad in terms of being rather boring to play, simply given the speed.

Cain's the lucky, resourceful character which is really not that frustrating to play when everything is unlocked, free golden chest by default, more drops, otherwise quite like average/Isaac in terms of stats.

Judas is the 2nd strongest character by default, given the Book and the damage multiplier, merely the first floors can be quite dangerous since with max 1 red heart, some many things can kill you with one shot or touch.

Blue Baby is well, limited in terms of hearts and just got the Poop which can actually be quite neat, rather challenging for new players and can't quite snowball out of control with devil deals but otherwise average.

Eve, personally, I do dislike as much as i like Judas which is quite much, main concern is the low damage multiplier even though her babylon mode is quite stronger/better than Judas+Book. It is merely a PITA to manage having 1 red heart or less.

Samson is also quite neat and gains through Rage a lot of damage, while Child's Heart may quite mean many hearts to allow for deliberate damage takin'.

Azael is arguably the best character, presenting new players the convinience of flight along with a lot of damage but what is overlooked quite often... it trains them in CQC and dodging.

Lazarus himself is simply meh but deciding on when to become Lazarus II is the real fun, when is there enough health available? Do you use the Pill before or after? (Hint: After if you go for an early death). Lazarus II has by the by improved stats and a better damage multiplicator.

Eden is random, could become the best or worst character, it is as simple as that and the randomness if fun. Tokens, well, they really should be no more at this point.

The Lost was awful (and bugged) and at least with the Holy Mantle that has changed (+pnaic re-roll). Flight, free devil deals and spectral tears are quite convinient which makes...

The Keeper, the worst, quite the same "two hit in a room and you are dead" with some changed rules and possibility to make it three often or otherwise break the limit, without such itemsand even with the Wooden Nickle, the Keeper has a slow rate of fire and triple shot which often hits just with one shot. Devil deals ae not free but you better have a health up waiting and on top of that they are rare, Pills also should not be taken without PhD lest it is a health down. Well, at least the hearts turning into flies are kinda neat...

Lilith is rather, well, meh, not really that fun to play with familiar shooting your tears even if you can double them and any. At least Greed Mode and Boss Rush can be made rather easy.

Apollyon is like Isaac a character of choice, risk and reward managing while rewarding knowledge. The Void is arguably more fun than the D6.

Now the Necromancer which could not be found by data miners because this time they are smart enough to add the hidden content later is OP for since they can avoid anything for whatever reason, specifically banhammers due to their vtricky hitbox~
Orpy 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 5:27 
On the other hand, The Lost unlocks some OP stuff.
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