"Did we mention the poop?"

[Mr. Christmas]

Better idea... remove the poop references so adults can show this game to non-gamers without having to make excuses for that?

[Karmi]

@Capitalist Pig said everything I would have said. Thanks for doin' the work, @Capitalist Pig :)

[mex]

Why make everything complicated? I didn't even bother reading all of that ♥♥♥♥ above me. Basically, poop stays, don't like it? Nobody forced you to see it. Your friends don't like poop? That's a bit silly.

[thejuiceweasel]

OP is either a troll or doesn't understand who made this game. Or a coprophobiac. In which case GTFO.

[Meme Fortress 2]

poop is serious business

[HekaDooM]

"Hey dev, remove poop. Satanic references and trivialising topics such as disfigured fetuses is cool though."

[Ecbrd]

Początkowo opublikowane przez HekaDooM:

"Hey dev, remove poop. Satanic references and trivialising topics such as disfigured fetuses is cool though."

Exactly

[ZachDaniel]

Feed the trolls, tuppence a bag.

[Maha.j2]

Is this really a thread complaining about the poop in the game?

Really?

Besides, I think the people you're gonna show this to are more likely to question why this child is shooting his own tears, has a coat hanger in his skull, or toothpicks in his eyes, is wearing the Mark of the Beast, or wearing lipstick, heels, and a bra.

[mex]

Yes. welcome to Steam.

[Keldohead]

So let me get this straight. Out of all the satanic references, the sac-religious themes, the gore, the fact you're a baby being deformed in the most twisted way possibles, the abominations, killing your own mother, the feces is what bothers you the most?

[Veya]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rattleh3ad:

the fact you're a baby being deformed in the most twisted way possibles

I thought Isaac was around 5? still incredibly young to be going through all that ♥♥♥♥, but still.

[Dr. Marker]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Town Park Radio:

That's my point.

Yes, because if you were to show this game to someone else it wouldn't be the implications of child abuse, religious imagery or dark humour that would drive them away, it would definately be the poop jokes.

I'd like to show this game to non gamers without having to make excuses because it caters to people like you.

If you have to make excuses for the games you like then I don't think you're quite as mature as you'd like to believe you are, you shouldn't need someone else's approval to enjoy a particular game, film, book, piece of music etc.

You should be able to enjoy something for your own sake.

Adults have no probelm with poop specifically, we simply are mature enough to udnerstand it's exactly as relevant to a narrative as describing the individual heart beats of the protagonist.

You don't speak for all adults, and not every aspect of a game has to tie directly to the narrative (things meant to be humourous often don't).

there's no mature reason to include autonomous funtions at all.

I would say that there's no mature reason not to either but I don't know how you define maturity.

They happen, whether written about or not.

False, a fictional character doesn't do anything (autonomous or not) unless it's mentioned or displayed because, and this is important to remember, they don't bloody exist.

If it makes you feel better to imagine your character using the loading times to use the toilet and grab a quick glass of water then that's your perogitive but that doesn't change the fact that a fictional character does not exist outside of their narrative and therefore cannot take actions outside of it (whether this would coincide with reality or not).

to do more than casually mention them is fetishistic, and to claim one is "immature" for understanding they're irrelevant functions is to not understand maturity.

I disagree with you (especially on what would qualify as fetishistic) but for the sake of arguement, how do you define maturity?

If you're going to make an arguement about why you feel something is immature you should at the very least have a clear definition in place.

Having visible results of the alimentary systemin your game is like having visible results of ecdydis.

And if people wanted to make moulting jokes then that would be just as fine as making poop jokes.

It's just that the audience for that is probably smaller.

Outside of frank scientific discussions; at best it's pointless or a marker; and at worst it's childish.

And so what if it's childish?

You have yet to explain why this is a negative trait, there are times when a bit of immaturity or childishness can be refreshing, not everything has to be of the utmost seriousness.

This game leans heavily towards pedantic with that. Heavy themes mixed with fun then OH! There's a pile of ♥♥♥♥ and some flies, isn;t that EDGY?

Not edgy, just silly.

If you have a problem with silliness in a game then might I reccomened you look for something else?

[Yuga-Suggah]

The thing about Edmund is that I do not think he wants to cater to an all-inclusive crowd. I mean, you have somebody who has proudly made titles such as The C Word, which is game about a penis shooting at a face that looks like and eventually becomes The C Word. He has a game where the heroine stomps on Dr. Fetus at the end of the game. In the same game, there is a character who is quite litterally living poop.

Edmund used to be a big Newgrounds contributor. Edmund probably draws inspiration from Tom Fulp, which I believe Behemoth Games Project 4 has poop as a defensive trait.

True, there are some gamers that are too uncomfortable playing his games. I am not saying that gamers should "suck it up". His design style runs on both the immature and obscene; his design is intentionally prohibitive. I am pretty sure that he would rather sacrifice some profits just so that some people would be offended.

Would I intentionally exclude certain sensablities in my video game? I don't know. I still like BOI with its deviant style.

[Bungus Crumbo]

I guess you want them to remove the pile of poop boss as well?

[BrokenSaint]

One thing everyone seemed to be missing is that poop is very relavent to the theme of child abuse in the game. An abused/neglected child would (especially before a potty training age) would be covered in their own poop because they are not bathed, changed, etc. Also ever heard the time living in your own filth? That is the situation Issac is in because of his mothers treatment.

Therefore, poop is not only a mechanic but is thematically relavant to the game. GTFO.