SMB achievement

[Frikandel Speciaal]

So I just started trying to get the SMB achievement (getting 4 cubes of meat) the cheesy way.

This attempt started really good, i got pyromaniac in the first item room. Got the sharp plug in the shop.

So now the next step would be getting and item that turns my tears into explosions (epic fetus, epicac,...). Then get the monster manual and then use that infinitely by healing myself with the explosions.


However i just got the following problem: i found monster manual in the item room before getting an explosive item.

My question is the following: Is this run ruined?

If i don't touch it, can i still find it in the item room again?

Should i take it and abandon the D6? And then hope to find a source of infinite explosions?

[Bite]

Hey, I was on the same boat you are, but two things saved my run. I found the Wafer which makes Sharp Plug charges only take half a heart, and I found Pyro, so each bomb was basically two re rolls.

Know this though, you NEED Monster Manual and it won't show up again, in Rebirth you don't have to grab the items for them to get out of the item pool, apparently just seeing them counts (Even though I saw Abel twice in the same run, however, it seems that item rooms don't work that way).

My advice would be to take MM and hope for any kind of explosive items, it took me 60 bombs, well over 100 Monster Manual uses, to finally get that damn Meatboy to spawn 4 times, it was hell, however, on another run I had a level 1 Bandage girl, and using MM somehow gave me a level 3 Bandage girl, and that happened while fighting a horseman of the apocalypse so he dropped another Ball of Bandages and I got the achievement all because of one MM use, so it's really a lot of random chance involved.

As anything in Isaac, it's all based in your own luck pretty much, so that's my advice, or you could always try to find another item pedestal and farm it as much as you can.

[Frikandel Speciaal]

Ok, thanks

I'll continue the run tomorrow and i'll see what i can do

[Nicegeist]

You should try to get explosive enemies and another item to reroll on that same floor.
I ran into the same situation, but i could reroll an IV Bag often enough to get explosive shots out of it and get the achievements without going any deeper.