What are your isaac hot takes?

[𝕬𝖗𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖗]

mask of infamy is worse than the bloat

[JellyPuff]

I even give you a 3-for-1 deal: Devil Rooms suck because the pool is too bloated, it's too easy to get OP Secret Room items and unavoidable damage is just part of the game now.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Pretty sure the only truly unavoidable damage is Delirium and maybe Dogma. Maybe some combinations in Greed(ier) if you can't keep on top of damage.

[pix]

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

[SandTag]

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Well damn OP asked for hot takes not misinformation

Maybe this is true in rep+ if you squint hard enough? mother got buffed and delirium got hit with the nerf bat pretty big.

[pix]

Originally posted by SandTag:

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Well damn OP asked for hot takes not misinformation :toriel:

Maybe this is true in rep+ if you squint hard enough? mother got buffed and delirium got hit with the nerf bat pretty big.

its been this way since rep came out. you still mad i called you out for review bombing?

[Eprico]

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Mother is predictable and follows a set pattern of choreographed attacks. Delirium is random and buggy which leads to completely undodgeable scenarios.

Side note I haven't been on these forums in half a year but I recognise 3 of the 4 people here what is my life man

[pix]

Originally posted by Eprico:

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Mother is predictable and follows a set pattern of choreographed attacks. Delirium is random and buggy which leads to completely undodgeable scenarios.

Side note I haven't been on these forums in half a year but I recognise 3 of the 4 people here what is my life man

mothers wiggling bullets are the bane of my life and deliriums randomness is hardly a problem. his buggyness is not great but its not enough to make him harder than mother.

[Patch]

blue baby is the goat

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Eprico:

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Mother is predictable and follows a set pattern of choreographed attacks. Delirium is random and buggy which leads to completely undodgeable scenarios.

Side note I haven't been on these forums in half a year but I recognise 3 of the 4 people here what is my life man

Delirium also spends a lot of time with no boss armor IIRC, and is so late in the run that you can probably abuse that fact.

[SandTag]

Originally posted by pix:

Originally posted by SandTag:

Well damn OP asked for hot takes not misinformation

Maybe this is true in rep+ if you squint hard enough? mother got buffed and delirium got hit with the nerf bat pretty big.

its been this way since rep came out. you still mad i called you out for review bombing?

Nobody review bombed anything, the thread got closed and several of the people talking like this (I.E calling it a review bomb) got rightfully muted, do not bring it up again.

Originally posted by Eprico:

Originally posted by pix:

Delirium is not that hard. mother is the hardest boss.

Mother is predictable and follows a set pattern of choreographed attacks. Delirium is random and buggy which leads to completely undodgeable scenarios.

Side note I haven't been on these forums in half a year but I recognise 3 of the 4 people here what is my life man

Yeah thats kind of my take on it, though delerium in rep+ isnt liable to telefrag the player anywhere near as often and being so late in the run, your pretty liable to just oneshot it as soon as you get a default form phase (Delerium loses its armour for that).

On the contrary, mother is like one of the tankiest bosses in the game and you don't get any handouts whatsoever unlike the other routes, no dogma and revealed blind pedistals, no chests from chest, just one measly boss item from your womb 2 floor replacement and instantly thrown into it. The wiggly attack in phase 2 is also really hard to figure out for the first time. I can understand the buffs and nerfs making it more comparable but my thoughts are simpler.

It really depends on what your playing, if your doing all unlocks the most obnoxious marks are things like lost, T.lost, jacob and hitbox and they all struggle more to the sheer goofy spam of delirium which can absolutely just frag either lost with no counterplay, while mother is a fight you could learn to dodge really well by the time you actually have to fight it on the sort of crunch time characters that people naturally leave to the end. In terms of raw difficulty and frustration, delerium has always just been that boss, so its not really a hot take, and in rep+ mother isn't really a hot take either, id say they are about even and the gap to beast and mega satan is really wide.

Tl:dr, the post is not wrong, but its in the wrong thread, calling mother a hard boss isn't a hot take, its just common knowledge.

[pix]

Originally posted by SandTag:

Originally posted by pix:

its been this way since rep came out. you still mad i called you out for review bombing?

Nobody review bombed anything, the thread got closed and several of the people talking like this (I.E calling it a review bomb) got rightfully muted, do not bring it up again.

Originally posted by Eprico:

Mother is predictable and follows a set pattern of choreographed attacks. Delirium is random and buggy which leads to completely undodgeable scenarios.

Side note I haven't been on these forums in half a year but I recognise 3 of the 4 people here what is my life man

Yeah thats kind of my take on it, though delerium in rep+ isnt liable to telefrag the player anywhere near as often and being so late in the run, your pretty liable to just oneshot it as soon as you get a default form phase (Delerium loses its armour for that).

On the contrary, mother is like one of the tankiest bosses in the game and you don't get any handouts whatsoever unlike the other routes, no dogma and revealed blind pedistals, no chests from chest, just one measly boss item from your womb 2 floor replacement and instantly thrown into it. The wiggly attack in phase 2 is also really hard to figure out for the first time. I can understand the buffs and nerfs making it more comparable but my thoughts are simpler.

It really depends on what your playing, if your doing all unlocks the most obnoxious marks are things like lost, T.lost, jacob and hitbox and they all struggle more to the sheer goofy spam of delirium which can absolutely just frag either lost with no counterplay, while mother is a fight you could learn to dodge really well by the time you actually have to fight it on the sort of crunch time characters that people naturally leave to the end. In terms of raw difficulty and frustration, delerium has always just been that boss, so its not really a hot take, and in rep+ mother isn't really a hot take either, id say they are about even and the gap to beast and mega satan is really wide.

Tl:dr, the post is not wrong, but its in the wrong thread, calling mother a hard boss isn't a hot take, its just common knowledge.

whatever you say buddy. the point was deli being easy but im not dealing with you any more today.

[Awsomesawse]

Big fan of this game, over 1000 hours played, every run is different, variety is the spice of life. Disappointed that my save file was corrupted after a long break from gaming. I originally had close to the whole paper filled, now each character only has half the boss kills than they used to. Would love to know if someone knew if my progress could be recovered?

[Jospehvan]

samson should start with samson's lock and not child's heart for doing ultra hard
ultra hard is way to difficult for the reward being... a situational trinket at best

[gFreak696]

Brimstone sucks.
It was amazing until Repentance, but now to me it's just a tears-down.

[frostehhh]

this game has retarded shot speed on enemies, if you have any skill. yeah its all scaled its pretty obvious, fk people like sinvicta who make it look like a cake walk,... im nearly deleted this game after 30+ runs with high level rooms meant for second half of the game, in the first two levels, over and over. its not a skill issue. if you have 6 enemies with bullet hell and anohter enemy charging you, spikes and fire, and you havnt upgraded anything or have an active item (second floor in very common for me) wtf can you but take damage. and then you got no devil deals or access to rooms to exchange health for buffs. fkc off