Getting no dmg items on runs

[Flint&Steel!]

Been getting a lot of runs where i get 0 dmg upgrades and its so boring and unfun. I wish there was at least one guaranteed dmg upgrade. So many bad items that do little to nothing so many range items i dont need anymore ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ range. I would trade all my familiars ive ever gotten for one dmg item. for the love of god i wish they would just tack on some dmg to some of these useless items.

[Gregor]

Try going to sleep, and think about the following sentence.

"The next time I play the Binding of Isaac I'll succeed"

Your current state of mind will allow an RNG of "worse" "Seeds" and will favor failure towards success.

A though like: "I can do this without getting hit, I can do this with no DMG ups and Healthups of what so ever" will benefit a succes on all the obstacles.

Your mindset seems to be a bit narrow.

As for example Range ups would be Favorable as Assacel, or even a specific combination you didn'T think of.

There's bad runs, there'S worse runs, and yes there are your runs.

So think about it, if you can influence your own experience and do it in the most favorable manner.

Good progress.....

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[Flint&Steel!]

The problem is the games boring af without dmg items. Sure i can beat the game with little to know damage but that doesn't make it fun watching enemies take bullet after bullet while i slightly dodging once in awhile isn't fun. Its slow tedious and boring.

[Yeena!]

there is a guaranteed damage item now. It's called The Negative.

[Sad Pug]

I was playing with Eve now, expecting my run to end on Isaac, because I only had book of belial.
In the chest, game changed and from pathetic damage Eve went to total killing machine. I felt almost sorry for Delirium.

[>[Blackthunder]<]

Oh well, i tried once Bethany, for 3Hours, in all 3hours, not asingle Damage item, but all speed items that exist, i was always speed capped. Best try was Isaac because i got Jar of Flys which got me some DMG, but MY dmg was still Base, and my Lifes were ♥♥♥♥ also. But hey i was speedy Gonzales.

[11clock]

Usually when I don't get damage upgrades I get other means of dealing damage, such as familiars and active items and whatnot. Or just a lot of bombs.

There are also lots of good items in the shop that help trigger synergies.

[Toxi]

I don't think it's that you're not getting strong enough, I think the problem is that the game doesn't feel fun starting out and if you have to go a long while without tears up / damage boosts, that can become very tedious.

Take for example a boss like Monstro. It's not not particularly challenging, it's just a slog. Monstro I feel is the epitome of everything that feels bad about the base stats.

[Сосёна]

Seeing like people complaining about "not challenging" game because players dont have dmg during the run make me laugh:D
Then dont play this game if u only hoping for dmg ugrade and dont understand how to beat game even with slight dmg:D
U didnt even see the worst part of this game yet except not giving u dmg

[K1]

Just hold R till u find a damage up from the item room

[Flint&Steel!]

Accept i have finished runs with little to no damage its just really really boring and slow. who wants to have base damage tears running around in the womb taking forever to clear a room. That's not fun or challenging its just boring. i don't feel rewarded after completing a run like that, I feel annoyed that the game screwed me over so hard.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

Originally posted by Winke:3:

Seeing like people complaining about "not challenging" game because players dont have dmg during the run make me laugh:D
Then dont play this game if u only hoping for dmg ugrade and dont understand how to beat game even with slight dmg:D
U didnt even see the worst part of this game yet except not giving u dmg

How about you use less smileys, and use more reading comprehension. He clearly stated that it's not about beating the game (or the bosses), it's about the fact that bosses, especially later ones, just became a huge bullet sponge if you dont get at least some damage ups. It's not fun, it's just tedious.

[Flint&Steel!]

Basically my only gripe with the game. Just had a run where i finished with like 4. 1 dmg and at the end i wasn't like wow i cant believe i got through that, awesome. No i was just annoyed that it took so long and half the items i saw were useless space bar items and just felt sorta cheated. I think the only item that run that gave me some dmg was dog tooth or whatever its called. Had like 7 red hearts though their weren't any devil deals I thought warranted my heart container. Its really not to big of a deal its just bad luck, I mean i get runs too that every other item is some sort of damage. Just wish there was like an extra hard room midway through that if you cleared you were guaranteed some kind of dps item. Some sort of high risk reward thing where at least if you were shafted early you could do the risky room and have a bit more smooth of a run. I think that would just make the game more consistent in terms of runs not becoming a slog.

[ESonsn]

This is happening to me as well. Definitely tedious. I get the whole new challenge thing, I can even get behind it. Sure we don't have to be OP by floor 3-4, but at least keeping pace with the enemies health would be nice, instead of constantly falling behind.

I could even handle the occasional run where the no damage ups would happen, such as before Repentance.

Overall I am enjoying the expansion, but I do agree that I find lots of runs not having damage ups, or getting them extremely late game if at all.

[Guwahavel]

I feel like its worth acknowledging that DPS can come from many other sources other than the damage stat. Tear upgrades are important as ever, but familiars and tear effects are alot more reliable in Rep. Bombs and active items can be used for burst damage when needed. Also, the Negative serves as a consistent damage upgrade if a run desperately needs it.

[<:)]

Generally if i have a boring and slow build, at the end of floor 2, if i don't get some decent devil item i will just hold R. There is no point wasting your time hoping you get some carry item rng for the sake of 'honour' or whatever excuse people use to berate restart spamming.