Unbeatable Rooms on Blue Bomber

[zookie]

So as most of you guys already know, the Blue Bomber run a blindfolded challenge meaning no tears, and you must kill everything using kamikaze or bombs.

HOWEVER, I encountered the wonderful room with the triple shot wall spiders. In this particular room, you have those wall spiders BUT, there is a long gap between the walkable floor and the wall.

NORMALLY I would just bomb out of a room like this, but this was the room before a boss room, meaning I have to kill all the enemies in the room or else I cannot advance.

Kamikaze's explosion is just out of range of the spiders, and you cant kick bombs over the holes.

Getting rooms like this pretty much ends your run. You just have to hope that you find a devil deal and WASTE your valuable soul hearts to buy ♥♥♥♥♥♥ brother bobby so you can slowly clear rooms like these.

This has to be brought to light and I hope that these issues are resolved.

[zookie]

引用自 McKnuckles：

I guess the eaiest thing is to just keep retrying till you can get the mega bomb (or whatever the name is) so you get a blast radius that isn't just outside touching distance of you. What other bomb related drops are there that would work well? I got the bobs head one and that seemed to help a little bit at least damage wise.

Im assuming you are referring to Mr. Mega which increases the radius. You already start the Blue Bomber run with Mr. Mega by default

[McKnuckles]

引用自 Tyrone the Dragon：

引用自 McKnuckles：

I guess the eaiest thing is to just keep retrying till you can get the mega bomb (or whatever the name is) so you get a blast radius that isn't just outside touching distance of you. What other bomb related drops are there that would work well? I got the bobs head one and that seemed to help a little bit at least damage wise.

Im assuming you are referring to Mr. Mega which increases the radius. You already start the Blue Bomber run with Mr. Mega by default

You do? It just seems like the bombs themselves have a bigger radius than when you use the space bar item.

[SubZeroDestruction]

if you get the room before the boss with the *Forgot the name sorry Big Issac fans* The Posion Issac Bombers. Since they are immune to Explosions well.. you can see that you can't kill them and since you can't bomb the Boss room... Gg

[noname]

Maybe it's just me, but I was doing this challenge and came across a room with out-of-reach Boils, and after waiting long enough, the enemies just died and the doors opened.

[Thrillhouse]

I was lucky enough to get a bombs = keys pill right before satan. Thanks for swapping 42 bombs for 2 bombs. gg

[BROLY 32]

It's a challenge, it's hard, it's unfair, deal with it.
People finished it and so will you if you try hard enough.

[Shadowspaz]

引用自 BROLY 32：

It's a challenge, it's hard, it's unfair, deal with it.
People finished it and so will you if you try hard enough.

That's the issue, though. Even the Lost (The original, unbuffed version) was possible with terrible items if you had enough skill.

But this is not. You can end up in a room before the boss door, where you do not have the range or items to clear the room. You can search the entire floor and not find anything to help you get through it. I was fortunate enough to find a Dice Room when this happened to me the second time, reroll the floor, and progress, but that's just it. It was nothing but luck.

This challenge does take a degree of skill, but when you get screwed out of a run like this, it is absolutely 100% luck. No amount of skill will prevent this, and it really goes against the structure of every other part of the game.

[spellbindinggnome]

Are you sure you were out of range? Spiders along the walls I thought I couldn't hit could actually be hit if you went right along the edge and kamikazed while holding the direction they were in. It's range was pretty large.

[Shadowspaz]

引用自 spellbindinggnome：

Are you sure you were out of range? Spiders along the walls I thought I couldn't hit could actually be hit if you went right along the edge and kamikazed while holding the direction they were in. It's range was pretty large.

Yup. There are rooms where the gap to the wall spiders is much too large.

[zookie]

引用自 spellbindinggnome：

Are you sure you were out of range? Spiders along the walls I thought I couldn't hit could actually be hit if you went right along the edge and kamikazed while holding the direction they were in. It's range was pretty large.

I know this picture I clearly bombed out of the room but this is a clear example of the type of unclearable rooms that you can get hit with.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=547675556