The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Duck Dec 29, 2015 @ 1:33am
why isnt brimstone in greed mode?
like seriously why is my favorite item not available in my favourite mode?
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heroic Jan 2, 2016 @ 12:15am 
ask the dev
Shadowspaz Jan 2, 2016 @ 1:23am 
Is it actually not available? I couldn't sworn I've gotten it before.
quetz Jan 2, 2016 @ 1:29am 
It is available there.
The Mad Doctor Jan 2, 2016 @ 4:31am 
Fight more devil rooms.
greed mode is weird indeed. I've never find brimstone and humbling bundle in greed mode either
Duck Jan 2, 2016 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by ミーア:
It is available there.
i breakfastet greed mode several times and never got it.
Schizoman Jan 2, 2016 @ 5:08am 
I've only done 40 or so greed runs so far and haven't seen it. Could just be bad luck. Assuming it isn't there I can see why. The large center room where the fighting happens would make it insanely OP, like even more than usual. You could just sit back near an edge and spam it.
quetz Jan 2, 2016 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Duck:
Originally posted by ミーア:
It is available there.
i breakfastet greed mode several times and never got it.
Bad luck then.
JellyPuff Jan 2, 2016 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Duck:
Originally posted by ミーア:
It is available there.
i breakfastet greed mode several times and never got it.

Breakfasting the game doesn't automatically mean, that you've exhausted every item pool, it just means, that you've exhausted that particular item pool.

Chaos, for example, doesn't mix items into pools, where they don't belong, it just causes item pools themselves to appear where they usually shouldn't.
That's why you often see 2 Guppy items in the shop. It's not luck, the shop item pool just has been replaced with the red chest pool for that moment.

Now, if you have Restock and buy all the red chest items from that shop, you'll get breakfasted pretty fast, since the red chest pool is quite small.

Edit: Brimstone is appearently not in the Greed Mode item pool. I don't really understand why it isn't.
The wiki doesn't list this item and people, who've looked into the gamefiles also confirm this.
Last edited by JellyPuff; Jan 2, 2016 @ 5:27am
vividBloodsucker Jan 2, 2016 @ 7:31am 
Because for some reason Nicalis seems to think that No Fun Allowed is the way to go, by policing what can and can't be used. Brimstone is already ultra rare as it is. I can understand banning the IV bag from Greed Mode, to an extent, as it allows you to potentially fill the machine with 99 coins as well as make yourself incredibly overpowered. HOWEVER Glowing Hourglass allows you to exploit that mode even more to the point where it allows you to go from 0-1000 coins in the Greed Machine in one run and as far as I know that item isn't banned.
Phrixscreoth Jan 2, 2016 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by vividBloodsucker:
Because for some reason Nicalis seems to think that No Fun Allowed is the way to go, by policing what can and can't be used. Brimstone is already ultra rare as it is. I can understand banning the IV bag from Greed Mode, to an extent, as it allows you to potentially fill the machine with 99 coins as well as make yourself incredibly overpowered. HOWEVER Glowing Hourglass allows you to exploit that mode even more to the point where it allows you to go from 0-1000 coins in the Greed Machine in one run and as far as I know that item isn't banned.


I would imagine that the difference between Glowing Hourglass cheese and IV Bag cheese is the difficulty in finding the correct items to pull the combo off and then properly executing the combo. IV Bag was a realitively easy item to find and let you immediatly abuse in the room you got it. Glowing Hourglass is comparitively more difficult to find, requires you to sacrifice your active item slot AND fight the final boss again and again.

I don't think they mind exploits as long as those exploits require more than a single item and can be abused the second you get the item.
Last edited by Phrixscreoth; Jan 2, 2016 @ 8:23am
Pantoufles Jan 2, 2016 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by Flipper Is A Dolphin:
greed mode is weird indeed. I've never find brimstone and humbling bundle in greed mode either
Humbling Bundle would be quite ridiculous in greed mode mate.
JellyPuff Jan 2, 2016 @ 9:10am 
I don't get why Breath of Life is not in Greed Mode either.

I can somehow see it being exploitable for donation machines, but even that isn't as good as simply picking up Steam Sale, as the machine will eventually break and you can't use IV-Bag and Breath of Life at the same time.

Makes even less sense with the removal of those donation machines.

Yeah, i know, you can step on the button for free, but i can't see how that is OP or cheap in any way. You'd still get the money penalty.
phrog Jan 2, 2016 @ 2:29pm 
All of the items are in greed mode.
Youre just not lucky enough to get it.
Last edited by phrog; Jan 2, 2016 @ 2:29pm
TheGreatBones Jan 2, 2016 @ 2:49pm 
I unlocked the keeper today from the glowing hourglass and chaos card trick
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