Beginner Advice?

[CrescentMouse]

Anyone have any tips.. I'm having a unbelievably bad time.. Like this game is by far the hardest I've ever played :(

[ｍ ｏ ａ ｃ ｉ ｒ]

Keep your eyes at isaac all the times and just keep your distance for safe dodges. Always look for your secret rooms and try to use blood donations machines more, but more importantly, learn the game and have fun.

[Violet42]

Best advice I have is to stay strong, keep trying, and take breaks when you need to. This game can be brutal at times, and it's going to feel unfair. But the more you play and the more practice you get, you slowly learn how to deal with the enemies the game throws at you. There's no quick tips to improving, you just gotta get your muscle memory in, improve your positioning and dodging.

Sometimes you need to step away from the game for a while. Whenever you're totally fed up, take 5, stretch, get some water, and maybe do something else for a bit lol. It's a battle of will.

[Teja]

Just play and play, memorize the items to know what pick and memorize the enemy atacks, you know that game is aleatory and you need to try and try again to found a good run, hope it helped you and good luck

[SHOVEL.EXE]

here my version for a noob guide:
play isaac so you can learn the basic and game tir physique, what xyz item is and make opinions on what good or bad.
get ready too lose often. sometime it just happen and skill issues will always happen.
every enemys (minus some boss's) have patterns. learn them.
unless you need the speed runs marks (boss rush/hush) take your sweet time get resource. a poop/fire can be destroyed (WITHOUT A BOMB)? just destroy it. there a room you miss? just do it. analyse and macro-manage what you can, cant and what better too do next floor.

here a actual tips for secret rooms. do too how the rng work the "normal secret room" tent too be next too the same "normal room". NEVER next too a block room or room that cant spawn in a particular way (thing room for example)
the best way too bomb in is a good guessing game of 1 too 4 connected room. yes 1 cus sometime rng say f*** u and make the "normal secret room" a second "super secret room".
same rule for "super secret room" but it 1 too 1
(TLDR remember what rooms are sus)

if you have unlock Maggy/Magdalene. play her, she the best Beginner character too play.
if somehow you have judas. play him for the ultimate git gud character before you have the lost's

DON'T PLAYING AZAZEL! he may by one of the strongest character. BUT he a huge noob trap.

[Ferry]

EDIT: lol the person deleted the comment before me.

Best way to learn the game is by picking up the items and well, learning what they do, some are helpful overall, others are helpful situationally and others can be intentionally deprimental.

Also another important thing is to learn the enemy behaviours, specially bosses so you learn what they do and know how to dodge them.

Bombs can open secret rooms, those are almost always connected to 3 other rooms, except for the boss room. Super Secret rooms are only connected to one room, and it tends to be near the corners of the floor.

You'll notice some rocks have some X on them, blow them up, they can give you soul hearts and other goodies.

Those I feel are some of the most important beginner tip, other more complex stuff you'll learn the more you play the game.

[SHOVEL.EXE]

and here some NEVER DO THIS! list.

-us any way too skip floors (onless you have a strong build for boss rush and hush but even then dont)

-combining too many "gimmick item" or volatile combos whit out protection
(exemple: monstro lunge + Eye of the Occult + pop!)
(exemple: ipecac + parasite + Cricket's Body without pyromaniac / host hat)
"guess i'l die" or "i legit cant kill" are not the only way too make your run unplayable.
there all so "i cant shoot" cus the second you do the game crash.

-taking the following item. unless its a intentional shoot in the foot or completion for dead god.
TMTRAINER, Mars, IBS, Blood Puppy, Scissors, Shard of Glass, Bumbo, Missing No. and my personal hot take of a opinion cus I personally hate the item Glitched Crown.

-ignoring mediocre item and trinket. you never know when you have a god combo/moment later. tho still be sensible sometime.
(exemple: Unicorn Stump + early blood donation machine on a floor = $$$$$$$$$)
(exemple again: Kamikaze! + pyro + lot of red hearts = INFINITE HP AND BOMBS)
(exemple AGAIN: Bob's Rotten Head / blue and red candles and more + Broken Remote = infinite teleport witch intern get you secret rooms, item room , shop and if Broken Remote gold devil/angel dills access and im error rooms FOR F***ING FREE)
do i need too go on? i can do this one all day.

-having the following stats too high or too low in some scenarios (yes im not joking)
speed (at 2.00 you can overshoot and run in too s**t and at 0.50-ish and less you outrun noting)
range (ipecac and Haemolacria get really bizarre)
shoot speed(items like spoon bender and tec X are better with as low shoot speed as possible)

EDIT: sorry for my terrible grammar.

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by VerdantSeamanJL:

Ohohohohohoho, you think this game is hard? Nope, not even close. Rain World is hard, pal, not TBoI, because TBoI is actually enjoyable, all you need to do is collect the items and defeat enemies while paying attention to your and the enemies' positions and their projectiles at all times. Unlike Raij World, which is just pure bs all the way through, down to the very developers and publishers who don't even contribute to their own discord server, despite being in it. TBoI isn't hard, it's pleasantly challenging, and all you have to do is learn the patterns and stuff. Just don't give up hope on this game, because it's truly worth every penny. Stick with it and you'll start having tons of fun in no time!

Uh.... Cool thanks for the rant about Rain World but next time, keep it to yourself :3

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by Mithermirke:

Each floor will have a secret room and a super secret room. Don't worry too much about the distinction as super secret rooms just aren't revealed by as many items as secret rooms are but they are very similar in function. Both can be revealed by blasting the wall where a door would normally be with a bomb. There are certain rooms that secret rooms (both super and normal can't spawn next to like the boss room. Secret rooms also can't spawn next to rooms where a door could not exist. For example if there are rocks in the way or if there is a pit in the way. This can help you narrow down where they might spawn so you don't have to waste bombs. You won't need to find them on every floor but if you need to I hope this helps with what you said about not knowing how to find them. Good luck!! Late game bosses are super fun and rewarding so look forward to it!

Yeah actually thanks a bunch for this, I've started learning how to spot these secrets and super secrets which helps me a bit more

[zeusdeegoose, eater of tide pods]

Originally posted by VerdantSeamanJL:

Ohohohohohoho, you think this game is hard? Nope, not even close. Rain World is hard, pal

The Rain World comparison is irrelevant as both games are entirely different genres. Isaac is a top-down roguelike. Rain World is a sidescrolling survival game.

[SHOVEL.EXE]

hello im back. hammering you more tutorials
"tactical gambling" is one of the best tool you can use.

the best example i can give is "a bomb for a bomb". in this situation you see a bomb block by rock's. get it for the "if of benefiting".

or

let say you have 10+ bombs and you get in a rome fuel of urns / mushroom / skulls / Polyps / Buckets in a way you can blow up more then 4-5 in 1 bomb. then blow them up.
let call tho's "prop rock"
these "prop rock" if blown-up have a chance too give good's or backfire in some way's.

example of the mushroom worst too best.
blow up and dmg you if you are in range of the explosion, nothing, spawn a pill, give the Liberty Cap trinket or if you are lucky give you 1 out of 3 item
mini mush (a ok item)
magic mushroom (a awesome item)
Wavy Cap (only in secret room) + (a meme item)

[diogo176]

just keep triyng sometimes we lose ourselves and sometimes we win

[VerdantShaman]

Originally posted by Zeus The Goose:

Originally posted by VerdantSeamanJL:

Ohohohohohoho, you think this game is hard? Nope, not even close. Rain World is hard, pal

The Rain World comparison is irrelevant as both games are entirely different genres. Isaac is a top-down roguelike. Rain World is a sidescrolling survival game.

Still, Isaac is fun while Rain World is just pure, unfiltered hell. And anybody that thinks otherwise either has no life and no emotions so as to play that horrid game for long enough to learn all of the completely bs techs and beat the game legitimately, even going as far as speedrunning, and I have very little, if any, respect for the people that defend this godawful game. Isaac always has been, and always will be, superior. And Rain World is the ultimate bottom line of games. Any time I'm playing cuphead or a similar difficult infinideath game, I'm able to reassure myself by saying "at least it's not Rain World". Oh, also, Isaac has a clear goal, whereas Rain World is vague and impossible to play well, for normal gamers, with absolutely no clear objectives at all whatsoever.

[VerdantShaman]

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Originally posted by VerdantSeamanJL:

Ohohohohohoho, you think this game is hard? Nope, not even close. Rain World is hard, pal, not TBoI, because TBoI is actually enjoyable, all you need to do is collect the items and defeat enemies while paying attention to your and the enemies' positions and their projectiles at all times. Unlike Raij World, which is just pure bs all the way through, down to the very developers and publishers who don't even contribute to their own discord server, despite being in it. TBoI isn't hard, it's pleasantly challenging, and all you have to do is learn the patterns and stuff. Just don't give up hope on this game, because it's truly worth every penny. Stick with it and you'll start having tons of fun in no time!

Uh.... Cool thanks for the rant about Rain World but next time, keep it to yourself :3

Oh, are you one of the freaks that likes Rain World? Possibly even enjoys the gameplay?

[The Renderer]

You could also watch some let's players play the game to learn how it works. Make sure to watch one from the beginning, though.

[CrescentMouse]

Originally posted by VerdantSeamanJL:

Originally posted by CrescentMouse:

Uh.... Cool thanks for the rant about Rain World but next time, keep it to yourself :3

Oh, are you one of the freaks that likes Rain World? Possibly even enjoys the gameplay?

No.. I don't even own the game. These forums aren't even about that game. I'm not a big fan of sidescrollers which is why I haven't bought to game, or talked about it. This is about tboi, not rainworld. Thanks for the rant about Rain World though, just keep it to yourself next time lil bro