Strategy for getting to Mega ♥♥♥♥♥

[MAG]

Right now I'm trying to get beat Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ with Eve and I'm not getting very lucky. The way I'm trying to do it is by skipping out on Devil Room items (except for black/soul hearts and Krampus) in order to get a chance at an Angel Room. I'm finding that doing it this way is quite difficult because I'm skipping Devil Room items that could be of great use and hoping that RNG gives me good items in Angel, Item and boss rooms, but I haven't been getting very lucky on that front either.

I'm thinking of just switching from Angel Rooms and hope to get lucky on Sacrifice rooms, but I've done this previously and I find it to be quite inconsistant and detrimental to the run without items like the Wafer. Which in your guy's opinion is better, Angel or Sacrifice rooms in terms of getting to Mega-♥♥♥♥♥? Or is there an even better strat for getting to him that I just don't know about?

Thanks in advance! :)

[r.darkholme]

I'm currently on the Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ hunt myself, and honestly I try to use both. If I have the health to use a self sacrifice room, I will. I also try to get Angel Rooms as well. I figure trying to make use of both paths give me the best chance. If you can't get in the Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ room in the first place, it doesn't really matter what items you have.

A lucky Dad's key or Get out of Jail Free Card doesn't hurt though either. :P

[Duck Vader]

Having 1001% the game, I can easily say the best way to get to Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ is a cross between Sacrifice Rooms and Angel Deals, but leaning more towards Sacrifice Rooms. Tips for using them:
Each floor resets your number of sacrifices (like you get each angel on sacrifice 9 and 11, but say you sacrifice 4 on one floor, on the next floor you'd have to get to 9 still, not 9 total. Hopefully that made sense?) which can be good because on certain sacrifices you can get the "You are Blessed" message which increases your Angel Deal chance, also on certain sacrifices you can get either soul hearts to keep sacrificing or you can get Angel Items or even an Angel Deal by sacrificing. Therefore you can easily get more and more health.
Also to maximize sacrifice rooms, be sure to hold onto cards like The Sun or The Lovers or The Heirophant for when you know there's a sacrifice room for the extra health. Also, Rainbow poops, while decently rare, heal you to full health when popped, so that can be used as well. Pills such as Percs!, Full Health, and Health Up can all be useful as well.
Another tip is look for the Wafer (an Angel item) or a Percs! pill in order to reduce the damage taken per sacrifice by 1 half heart.
As you can well imagine, don't take devil deals. They reduce your health and make getting Angel Deals from boss kills impossible.

If you're going for just Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ runs, then I'd advise restarting until you get one of these items: PhD (better pills, means more likely Full Health, Health Up, and or Percs! also it heals you for 2 hearts I believe), Maggy's Bow (I believe this is an HP up plus all hearts heal for double), any Health up (The Body is the best one imo), Pyromaniac (heal from explosions including the green ones from enemies), Dad's Key (to completely ignore this whole thing, with the Sacrifice of your spacebar item), Wafer, or Little Chad (or if you're lucky, Little Chad + Dark Bum so you don't have to worry about heart containers).

Hope that can help!

[Crimson Renegade]

What is RNG?

[Dr. Uncredible]

Random Number Generation, which is how the game creates artificial randomness. :)

[Biohazard063]

Improving your odds for both angel and devil rooms can only help your cause. Because you need to get a devil room and then you have a chance for it to turn into an angel room.

For example (and I hope this info is still correct) :
Blowing up a shopkeeper on the current floor : +10% for a devil room
Destroying a normal beggar : +35% for a devil room
These two can be done without needing specific items.

For angel rooms, you got something similar :
Donating 10 coins to the donation machine : +10%
Having a normal beggar pay out : +25% (+10% in the DLC)

Somethings can give you a lot better odds of course but require better items.
I'd say go over the wiki as far as chances go regarding Devil Rooms[bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com] and Angel Rooms[bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com].

Alternatively you could just luck out and find dad's key or a get out of jail free card. Both can be used to open the door to mega ♥♥♥♥♥.

[dean0null]

I've always wondered something that someone here might know the answer to. If you get to the Devil Room say from the Joker card or any other way before the boss fight, is there any chance to turn it into an Angel Room, or is it stuck for the level as soon as you've entered the Devil Room?

Edit: Oh, and to answer the question... I don't hold out hope for Dad's Key, and I don't like carrying it around either so I usually see if I can get enough health in a level with a Sacrifice Room or hope for Angel Rooms. Certain characters seem to get Devil Rooms more than other's though so I like using Sacrifice Rooms if I can. Just remember to only sacrifice to get the two pieces of the key otherwise you will be teleported to outside Mega ♥♥♥♥♥'s door. Duck Vader's tips are crucial.

[Justice]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Biohazard063:

Improving your odds for both angel and devil rooms can only help your cause. Because you need to get a devil room and then you have a chance for it to turn into an angel room.

For example (and I hope this info is still correct) :
Blowing up a shopkeeper on the current floor : +10% for a devil room
Destroying a normal beggar : +35% for a devil room
These two can be done without needing specific items.

For angel rooms, you got something similar :
Donating 10 coins to the donation machine : +10%
Having a normal beggar pay out : +25% (+10% in the DLC)

Somethings can give you a lot better odds of course but require better items.
I'd say go over the wiki as far as chances go regarding Devil Rooms[bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com] and Angel Rooms[bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com].

Alternatively you could just luck out and find dad's key or a get out of jail free card. Both can be used to open the door to mega ♥♥♥♥♥.

Huh, people lied to me! I remember many recomended to blow shopkeeper and beggar for devil/angel room to spawn, but it seems this only applies to Devil room...Wow, no wonder I'm keep getting Devil room even when I donate and don't take devil deals

[tf2player]

no,theshopkeeper blow up applies to both according to misssing hud

[Quokka]

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheRevolution:

Right now I'm trying to get beat Mega ♥♥♥♥♥ with Eve and I'm not getting very lucky. The way I'm trying to do it is by skipping out on Devil Room items (except for black/soul hearts and Krampus) in order to get a chance at an Angel Room. I'm finding that doing it this way is quite difficult because I'm skipping Devil Room items that could be of great use and hoping that RNG gives me good items in Angel, Item and boss rooms, but I haven't been getting very lucky on that front either.

I'm thinking of just switching from Angel Rooms and hope to get lucky on Sacrifice rooms, but I've done this previously and I find it to be quite inconsistant and detrimental to the run without items like the Wafer. Which in your guy's opinion is better, Angel or Sacrifice rooms in terms of getting to Mega-♥♥♥♥♥? Or is there an even better strat for getting to him that I just don't know about?

Thanks in advance! :)

Sacrifice room:

Cancer also gives the wafer effect after taking damage just a reminder.

habit, blank card, hierophant

wafer or cancer

fullhealth pill or sun card plus high HP

restock plus health in a store

I did mine all with dad's key, GOJF, and angel rooms. Mostly dad's key by duping chests infinitely with each character in The Chest. If you get GOJF at any point in a run, take it all the way.

[Crimson Renegade]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Screaminglyjolly:

Random Number Generation, which is how the game creates artificial randomness. :)

Ah thank you, for the longest time i was wondering what that meant.

[Tato]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Screaminglyjolly:

Random Number Generation, which is how the game creates artificial randomness. :)

"Artifical" Randomness? Isn't every randomness artifical? Or, what even is randomness?

[Quokka]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dasky:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Screaminglyjolly:

Random Number Generation, which is how the game creates artificial randomness. :)

"Artifical" Randomness? Isn't every randomness artifical? Or, what even is randomness?

I think by artificial he means that the randomness is manipulated