Mods that make the game fun?

[dean0null]

I am so ... frustrated with this game. I have 1300 hours+, and I just want to pull my official numbered print off my wall and burn it. I just feel hatred toward the game when I play it. The more I play, the worse I am getting.

So, are there any mods that bring back the original fun that this game had? I used to be able to drink a large quantity of alcohol as I got in the zone in hard mode... Now, I feel this is basically unplayable. I don't enjoy playing at all. I'm not satisfied or rewarded by trying. It feels like every item is about the same as good. There are too many items too, etc.

I know everyone has heard this stuff before, so I was hoping that someone rebalanced the game to how it felt before Afterbirth Plus while keeping most of changes intact. I disagree with what many are going to say about the difficulty, the balancing, etc. Even if I got good enough, I don't think I'd enjoy it and instead hate myself for pushing myself into that box. So, is there something like this takes all DLC into account, and rebalances the content, speed, health, damage of the items, enemies, and rooms that is also done to a high quality?

Edit:. I know there are individual mods that change specific things back to how they were. I'm hoping there's something that basically does what I'd have expected Repentance to actually release as. Taking the same considerations but ending up with a more enjoyable product.

[Ceilix]

wow

[Colind8]

Play another game

[Eprico]

No, there isn't, most people aren't this bad after 1300 hours. I'm not trolling, I genuinely can't believe that you have 1300 and you're struggling. If you want every run to be a free win like in rebirth, you can download the angels drop angel room items mod. Sacred heart every run, is that what you want? Ridiculous man, the game is not that hard. 1300 hours jesus

[Eprico]

Do you afk in the menus?

[The Renderer]

Sounds more like you need a break.

[dean0null]

Originally posted by Eprico:

No, there isn't, most people aren't this bad after 1300 hours. I'm not trolling, I genuinely can't believe that you have 1300 and you're struggling. If you want every run to be a free win like in rebirth, you can download the angels drop angel room items mod. Sacred heart every run, is that what you want? Ridiculous man, the game is not that hard. 1300 hours jesus

I agree. It shouldn't be this hard. I know that you're looking at it from the other side, but from my side, I can't figure it out either. I got all achievements in Rebirth, Afterbirth, and Afterbirth+ in about 850 hours, but have been unable to dent Repentance.

It seems like every death is from some super quick thing. Like I said, I don't think I'm getting better because it all happens so fast, or I get piled on so bad that there really isn't much of a learning experience, and instead my brain just stops panics or tries to reevaluate what I should be considering which often results in a guaranteed death. The fact that the rebalances have taken away the easier and more enjoyable session playing items has taken away the small likelihood of winning every so often. Even then there's so much on screen that I'm almost guaranteed to lose. Basically, the game has become almost unplayable for me.

I've never been very good at the game, but that didn't mean I didn't like it. It's been my favorite game of all time for most of the time I've played it which just makes this whole thing harder to take as Edmund left turned on what I thought was to be baked into the game since the beginning. I could easily win sometimes, and when I knew I couldn't, I'd try my best, almost always die, and start again. I expected Repentance to be harder, but also more in line with bringing the difficulty closer to Rebirth instead of the all over the place Afterbirths.

So it really is annoying that now when I struggle, I can't make progress. I play and except for a few items, there hardly ever seems like there is a way out.

I do have conditions that certainly impact this situation and affect my cognition, but I never expected Repentance to be this hard and in this way. I'm currently trying to beat Greedier mode with Tainted Lost. I can't get past floor 4. I had a really good run until brimstone was covering every other square. How to beat that when I can only see half my screen?

I guess maybe it's just time to move on. I wish it wouldn't have ended this way. Fairness and difficultly over fun is just what the devs wanted to change it to, I guess.

[banana]

well, I personally liked almost all changes and additions in Repentance, because ab+ was really damn broken, and either really easy or unplayable. And I think the majority of people agrees with this, so it's unlikely someone made what you want, with all the work it needs

[dean0null]

Originally posted by banana:

well, I personally liked almost all changes and additions in Repentance, because ab+ was really damn broken, and either really easy or unplayable. And I think the majority of people agrees with this, so it's unlikely someone made what you want, with all the work it needs

I agree, to a point. I understand the direction and the polish it needed, but by nerfing the parts they kept, and taking away the broken bits, they really changed the flow of the game to a consistency that I have a hard time swallowing. If the items were roughly the same, the new enemies and movements were kept, but without so much bullet hell, I'd be able to get behind it wholeheartedly.

I thought that Afterbirth wasn't as consistent as it should have been, and that Afterbirth+ was far worse in many ways. I still enjoyed most of the new content though and didn't feel like anything was unfair or overrepresented. With Repentance, I'm left loving a lot of the changes, but disagreeing with the item changes, some of the speed and enemies/bullets on screen. There are some really, really good things about it. I'm just not good enough with the difficulty spikes to be around to enjoy or utilize what Repentance is.

The biggest thing I dislike is what they've done with items though I wouldn't have minded a little tweaking. I used to live getting new items, but now they're almost a symbol that I'm getting weaker and weaker while I know the game is getting harder and harder. I don't have any favorite items anymore.

That was one of the strengths of Isaac, but now they don't seem to matter to me because I'm hardly going to be able to use them if I'm going to die a floor or two later anyway. They've "balanced" them to the point of them becoming very samey in how much they help. I liked that there was variety in how much they'd affect the build before.

This isn't to say I wish they hadn't touched the item pool. They definitely needed to, but unfortunately, they really failed here too by changing the rates the good items showed up while nerfing them at the same time. It's like they took the things wrong with the game and decided to go too far in each direction wilding boosting the difficulty in each instance and removing much of the things that made them unique.

My main point in each case is that they just seemed to go a little too far, exponentially increasing the difficulty. If the item pool was too good, then lower the damage, but they changed how often they'd appear at the same time. If the game is too easy, maybe add more difficult enemies or enemy patterns, but don't add a gazillion bullets at the same time. If you're going to add way more bullets, don't increase the speed of the bullets. This just makes sense to me.

[Eprico]

Originally posted by dean0null:

Originally posted by Eprico:

No, there isn't, most people aren't this bad after 1300 hours. I'm not trolling, I genuinely can't believe that you have 1300 and you're struggling. If you want every run to be a free win like in rebirth, you can download the angels drop angel room items mod. Sacred heart every run, is that what you want? Ridiculous man, the game is not that hard. 1300 hours jesus

I agree. It shouldn't be this hard. I know that you're looking at it from the other side, but from my side, I can't figure it out either. I got all achievements in Rebirth, Afterbirth, and Afterbirth+ in about 850 hours, but have been unable to dent Repentance.

It seems like every death is from some super quick thing. Like I said, I don't think I'm getting better because it all happens so fast, or I get piled on so bad that there really isn't much of a learning experience, and instead my brain just stops panics or tries to reevaluate what I should be considering which often results in a guaranteed death. The fact that the rebalances have taken away the easier and more enjoyable session playing items has taken away the small likelihood of winning every so often. Even then there's so much on screen that I'm almost guaranteed to lose. Basically, the game has become almost unplayable for me.

I've never been very good at the game, but that didn't mean I didn't like it. It's been my favorite game of all time for most of the time I've played it which just makes this whole thing harder to take as Edmund left turned on what I thought was to be baked into the game since the beginning. I could easily win sometimes, and when I knew I couldn't, I'd try my best, almost always die, and start again. I expected Repentance to be harder, but also more in line with bringing the difficulty closer to Rebirth instead of the all over the place Afterbirths.

So it really is annoying that now when I struggle, I can't make progress. I play and except for a few items, there hardly ever seems like there is a way out.

I do have conditions that certainly impact this situation and affect my cognition, but I never expected Repentance to be this hard and in this way. I'm currently trying to beat Greedier mode with Tainted Lost. I can't get past floor 4. I had a really good run until brimstone was covering every other square. How to beat that when I can only see half my screen?

I guess maybe it's just time to move on. I wish it wouldn't have ended this way. Fairness and difficultly over fun is just what the devs wanted to change it to, I guess.

Again, it is still fun, you are just bad. Amen

[TamanduaGirl]

I consider myself a trash player at games like this. I mean I suck at these sorts of games so just never play them. My go too games were stardew and mincraft. I found this game last year with the repentance release so I started with that. I saw it being played and had to try it. I'm 1k hours and 57% of unlocks. I think this shows the changes really aren't bad. Even a trash player like me can get wins.

I think you are just having trouble getting used to the changes. Maybe try the item descriptions mod to help you learn the new differences.

Otherwise I think about all you can do is uninstall and install without the DLCs you don't like, though a lot of people running the older versions are having issues with crashes and such.

[Nerd_1991]

I installed "Items in spawn mod" for Repentance. after I beat the game with no mods. I think this mod is all that you're looking for, and you'll enjoy the game again. The mod will put 15'ish items in the first room of every floor. Also works in greed mode, but the items will be in the item room

[Roler42]

Hmmm Give yourself a little break, couple days, maybe a week, I was feeling just like you back in AB+ when I was like 600 hours in, sounds like you're feeling burned out, it happens, I'm not sure about recommending mods (I only have the antibirth music, so I can't help you there), but I think being in a better headspace will help you reconnect with the game.