Why is delirium such a badly designed boss?

[Jigmac]

As title says, how are you meant to dodge the bullet hells that it spawns from all direction within a second and having to fear that he will telefrag you at any given time?

Honestly why isn't there a mod to make it less ass to fight it?

[Mastema]

It's less of a bad design and more the fact of how buggy he still is. His boss fight was never truly fixed and it's known for spazzing out during his quick transformations.

It's not as much of a chore to fight him when you got a strong if not broken run that melts or chunks his hp down well enough (which you sorta should have if you've made it to the Void). Don't even attempt to fight him with Lost/T. Lost without a cracked run and a ♥♥♥♥ ton of I frame items. Though, again, Delirium is mostly just bugging out between shifts, devs probably just gave up on fixing him either way.

His actual attack patterns can be learned, it's just his schizo jumping and seconds worth of boss shape changes that throw you off.

[Jigmac]

Originally posted by Wilson:

It's less of a bad design and more the fact of how buggy he still is. His boss fight was never truly fixed and it's known for spazzing out during his quick transformations.

It's not as much of a chore to fight him when you got a strong if not broken run that melts or chunks his hp down well enough (which you sorta should have if you've made it to the Void). Don't even attempt to fight him with Lost/T. Lost without a cracked run and a ♥♥♥♥ ton of I frame items. Though, again, Delirium is mostly just bugging out between shifts, devs probably just gave up on fixing him either way.

His actual attack patterns can be learned, it's just his schizo jumping and seconds worth of boss shape changes that throw you off.

sooo in short, debug console on delirium is ok

[lieutenantkirtar]

I just don't expect to win unless I have some ungodly overpowered setup. Not a fan of the bosses with super armor.

[Typisch]

Originally posted by lieutenantkirtar:

I just don't expect to win unless I have some ungodly overpowered setup. Not a fan of the bosses with super armor.

almost all end bosses have super armor tho

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by lieutenantkirtar:

I just don't expect to win unless I have some ungodly overpowered setup. Not a fan of the bosses with super armor.

Ironically, Delirium is the on end-boss where this complaint doesn't really apply; it only has armor when mimicking another boss and resets the counter for it when it transforms.

[lieutenantkirtar]

Maybe I'm misreading it but the wiki seems to be saying that Delirium is the only boss fight where armor is a constant problem. It reapplies its armor every time it transforms into another boss. And it seems to spend most of the battle switching to other boss forms whenever I fight it.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

I hate its stupid telefrag attack so much and Edmund seems to have nerfed algiz. Good thing I got Lost and T.Lost out of the way.

[abisalspider]

For starters, it was designed for Afterbirth+ where breaking the game was much easier. And he is kinda optional so he was made with "players will probably have broken the game if they want to see him" in mind. I also feel like he was made at a point in time when most of the devs were looking forward to other projects (like Bumbo in the case of Ed) so he was probably quite halfassed.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by lieutenantkirtar:

Maybe I'm misreading it but the wiki seems to be saying that Delirium is the only boss fight where armor is a constant problem. It reapplies its armor every time it transforms into another boss. And it seems to spend most of the battle switching to other boss forms whenever I fight it.

The thing is, reapplying armor does the opposite of what you seem to think it does; it resets the scaling and makes you do more damage than you should against the level of armor Delirium technically has. In its base form, it's even missing the armor entirely!

[blue corpse]

Originally posted by abisalspider:

For starters, it was designed for Afterbirth+ where breaking the game was much easier. And he is kinda optional so he was made with "players will probably have broken the game if they want to see him" in mind. I also feel like he was made at a point in time when most of the devs were looking forward to other projects (like Bumbo in the case of Ed) so he was probably quite halfassed.

Absolutely, Delirium on Afterbirth+ initial release it was even worse. Now it just sucks and stinks of just not caring much to get the game out. ED has let too many projects go to the crapper. Delirium could have been such a rad boss. Sadly we just got loads of blue rooms and a game of Cluedo boss fights