(NEW) TAINTED CAIN STRATEGY?

[Bill Cipher]

with the new patch i dont know how to use this character anymore.
do u have any strategy?

[XZero]

I guess start by trying to find recipes with mostly the more common pickups and see if it makes a decent item, then you could make more of that item if it stacks.


And here’s the few recipes that are always the same:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/qtcqey/tainted_cain_fixed_recipe_list/

[dorosh.similar]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2663333459

Fanny Pack + Habit (very common) + Old bandage (also common) - this way you can abuse Tainted Cain.
Then take 8 hearts to create active healer. And damage yourself to get pickups.
Then using the list above you can create a lot of keys (Latch Key to increase luck), Soul Locket for stats, Sacred Heart and even Death Certificate.

[F IAaP n]

The same way you've done before? You can't make something like Tractor Beam so easily now, but he's still played the same.

[HeraldOfOpera]

You still break the game by turning any 8 pickups into a pedestal item, and by breaking old active items created with 8 coins in a Secret Room in order to get the broken things from that pool. In exchange for the relative lack of fixed recipes, you can now do the latter with 8 red hearts as well.

[Laffibob Dongripants]

When you play a "normal" character you will get random items through the run, from different kinds of rooms. The thing is...if you threat Tainted Cain like that, you not only get items, you get them from everywhere. I do focus on some "rarer" craft items when I played him, but it's really how it is. I must admit that I made Jesus juice 5 times in a run, but that was because the recipe was really easy to remember. Like 2 bombs, and only coins.

So yeah. Threat Tainted Cain like any other character, and be happy you get items through every floor and rooms, and that you can also skip bad items, and try a different combo.

You will very much understand this when you're starting to do Boss Rush / Hush runs, because you won't really have time to think that much...you just have to craft, craft, craft!

[F IAaP n]

Originally posted by Laffibob Dongripants:

You will very much understand this when you're starting to do Boss Rush / Hush runs, because you won't really have time to think that much...you just have to craft, craft, craft!

This. You just instantly craft whatever you can as long as it isn't too bad.

[Laffibob Dongripants]

It's very simple: You craft whatever you don't have, and that isn't bad. If you see something you don't want, you just keep changing crafting items, until you get something you want.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Laffibob Dongripants:

It's very simple: You craft whatever you don't have, and that isn't bad. If you see something you don't want, you just keep changing crafting items, until you get something you want.

And things you already have aren't even necessarily bad. If fingerspam ends up as easy as it was with fixed recipes, go ahead and drop them by the dozen.

[dorosh.similar]

I've done with T.Cain completion marks after maybe ten attempts. The problem was just Mama Mega until I saw that there is fixed recipe for it.

[Laffibob Dongripants]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by Laffibob Dongripants:

It's very simple: You craft whatever you don't have, and that isn't bad. If you see something you don't want, you just keep changing crafting items, until you get something you want.

And things you already have aren't even necessarily bad. If fingerspam ends up as easy as it was with fixed recipes, go ahead and drop them by the dozen.

Obviously talked about getting the same active item over again, and items that won't work twice. For example. You can't really get any benefiction from crafting Red Candle twice. It will drop some craft items, but still.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Laffibob Dongripants:

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

And things you already have aren't even necessarily bad. If fingerspam ends up as easy as it was with fixed recipes, go ahead and drop them by the dozen.

Obviously talked about getting the same active item over again, and items that won't work twice. For example. You can't really get any benefiction from crafting Red Candle twice. It will drop some craft items, but still.

I obliquely mentioned it before, but crafting duplicate active items in a Secret Room will guarantee a bone heart that can then be used to draw from the overpowered Secret Room pool.