After hundreds of hours of playing I still think Mom's Ghost level sucks

[deadbus]

So here is commonn situation - bomb's giver placed in deadend. And I have to take bomb, throw it and dodge Mom's attack. Bomb falls somewhere cutting me from only exit in deadend and I'm -1 hp. Then Mom's attack - I'm running in deadend only direction with no way to dodge and got -1 hp more. Ok great. And there are more bomb's givers in that room.

All this stuff requires throwing and dodging strategically, but there is just no time to think about it. And mistakes cost player floors of playing.

Unfair and unfun.

[MarcoPants]

This is gonna sound real elitist here buuuut...

git gud

Getting caught in a corner by the ghost with your only way out covered by an active bomb you tossed from a dispenser is entirely your fault as a player

[RattyRattington]

Yeah, I hate to say it, but you kinda have to really suck to even have issues on that chase segment.

[Hacks]

it's the most boring part of the run what are you talking about

[deadbus]

Originally posted by DeadlyCreature:

Yeah, I hate to say it, but you kinda have to really suck to even have issues on that chase segment.

There are many rooms and I think you didn't finish them all. Can you agree that some rooms there can be less fair than others?

[deadbus]

Originally posted by MarcoPants:

This is gonna sound real elitist here buuuut...

git gud

Getting caught in a corner by the ghost with your only way out covered by an active bomb you tossed from a dispenser is entirely your fault as a player

Bomb can jump back from walls. And it depends on many factors: where I toss, when I toss (it could explode later or earlier), will it jump back etc. Mom's attack is not completely predictable too - Mom comes closer and then she attacks. But when and how far and from which angle - it varies.

I pretty sure human being can be git gud in anything. But will it be fun? Will it worth it?

[deadbus]

Originally posted by DeadlyCreature:

Yeah, I hate to say it, but you kinda have to really suck to even have issues on that chase segment.

Unpolite.

[deadbus]

Actually I'm not intresting discussing unfun moments of game with genius TBoI players who completed everything. This post is addressed to game's creators.

[squat_instructor]

If your intent was to contact devs you should post it in the official discord, where Kilburn could actually see it. This looks more like a failed opinion validation attempt.

[fromage_enrage]

I like this segment. Sure, you'll have to do it a lot, but it's short and does not overstay its welcome.

[UwU]

Originally posted by squat_instructor:

If your intent was to contact devs you should post it in the official discord, where Kilburn could actually see it. This looks more like a failed opinion validation attempt.

Sadly for this guy, Kilburn even more of a "genius tboi player", so a response would be the same if not even worse, lol

[squat_instructor]

most likely, yeah

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by UwU:

Originally posted by squat_instructor:

If your intent was to contact devs you should post it in the official discord, where Kilburn could actually see it. This looks more like a failed opinion validation attempt.

Sadly for this guy, Kilburn even more of a "genius tboi player", so a response would be the same if not even worse, lol

For real, he's such an unparalleled prodigy at the game that he needs other people to do an editing pass after he's done because he can't act as a proper judge of what us mere mortals are capable of. (This is actually part of Dunning-Kruger, believe it or not)

[lieutenantkirtar]

I wish you kept your items and just had the bomb dispensers as a backup so you can't get stuck. It was really nice playing as Azazel and just flying over everything.

[CJones]

There are a finite number of different route layouts, and the ghost's movement is entirely deterministic (meaning you have 100% control over it's movements). Once you have the pathing memorized, you should always be able to get through without ever getting hit.

The only excuse is when you get a route you've never seen, or do not know well enough yet.

[deadbus]

Originally posted by CJones:

There are a finite number of different route layouts

I can't say how many layouts has mom's ghost stage, but other parts of games have thousands of them.

Originally posted by CJones:

meaning you have 100% control over it's movements

At least wiki supports me...

It is strongly discouraged to stand on one tile-wide paths for too long, because they limit Isaac's ability to move out of the way of its dashes.
Since Isaac keeps any health he enters the area with, it is wise to stock up on hearts beforehand to minimize chances of death.