Is it me or Beast is much more easier than Mother?

[ゲ-で]

I mean, Beast is fun and both He and Dogma are very cool and nice design wise, but Mother is tougher to beat.

[DragoonC]

Beast and Dogma are just great designs as well as the concept of the ascension. Corpse and Mother fight are just boring, not to mention it's the end of path. They really should add so you can access Dad's Note after Mother fight.

[Matirion Maeronta]

Originally posted by DragoonC:

Beast and Dogma are just great designs as well as the concept of the ascension. Corpse and Mother fight are just boring, not to mention it's the end of path. They really should add so you can access Dad's Note after Mother fight.

I do agree that having a chance at the note after Mother would be nice, as it's technically still Mausoleum 2, but only after completing the normal ascension route a certain amount of times, as an unlock.

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by DragoonC:

Beast and Dogma are just great designs as well as the concept of the ascension. Corpse and Mother fight are just boring, not to mention it's the end of path. They really should add so you can access Dad's Note after Mother fight.

I wish Mother wasn't the end of the line/ I just don't see why we can't go up or down after her.
But, god, Beast is so nice and Dogma's theme is 10\10
Yet not much of a final boss tho.

[Sgt. YippyYap]

Yeah. Beast is innovative, due to different perspective, and also you having to play flappy bird lol. DIfferent fight. I like dogma's attacks (though that static brimstone can be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you aren't used to it) But I would like to see its health buffed. You usually just melt through it

But when it comes to Mother, it's much easier to beat. Mother is annoying to fight. Especially if you aren't OP and get to experience all of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ undodgeable attacks.
She is spammy and her attacks clutter everything unnecessarily
WHICH WOULD BE FINE IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE ARENA SMALLER
like they have you fight her first phase in a normal room? Why???? The arena expands later slightly, that's okay, but it still feels so tiny for some of the attacks. But the first phase is just horrible

Also, not to mention the Corpse 1 bosses... It's obvious that they have been taken from a mod, lol
They are not balanced at all and their attacks are a complete nonsense. But thankfully you should have a good enough build to get through them quickly. If you don't blitz them before their second attack, you might be in trouble. Except Chimera. Chimera, I feel at least, is fairly balanced

[Ace]

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

I mean, Beast is fun and both He and Dogma are very cool and nice design wise, but Mother is tougher to beat.

both are situational, mother is easy with explosive damage or high tear rate, beast is easy with a lot of health and speed

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

I mean, Beast is fun and both He and Dogma are very cool and nice design wise, but Mother is tougher to beat.

both are situational, mother is easy with explosive damage or high tear rate, beast is easy with a lot of health and speed

Beast is very readable, and his harbingers aren't that hard either,
Mother, she has some very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ patterns

["Donut☆]

The Beast is way easier than Mother. Almost all attacks are easy to dodge when you know the patterns. The only issue is that the Dogma fight becomes next to impossible if your speed got below 1 somehow. The Beast is also way easier to reach.

I don't like phase 2 of the Mother fight. The arena should be bigger.

[Simoko]

The whole path to mother is pretty awful tbh.

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by Simoko:

The whole path to mother is pretty awful tbh.

Don't you like ass-broken alternate floors with broken enemies?
I like them very much. And getting the knife everytime is soooo fun, it's not hard it's plain boring

[Violeta]

Corpse mother is easily the worst fight. Some people hate delerium and the void rng is indeed BS, but usually your super strong by the point you reach him.

With her they took away two items on alt path, they took away 4 free items right before the fight. Almost every bonus of doing alt path was ripped right out and a negative added (blind items that are often bad items).

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by Sashie:

Corpse mother is easily the worst fight. Some people hate delerium and the void rng is indeed BS, but usually your super strong by the point you reach him.

With her they took away two items on alt path, they took away 4 free items right before the fight. Almost every bonus of doing alt path was ripped right out and a negative added (blind items that are often bad items).

Frankly I don't get what's the point of the alt items in the treasure rooms since you can't see them. They were a reward for taking a harder path before, but now they are but a joke

[Violeta]

Lets not forget as well that the beast path lets you get more items if you go for planeteriums because you can get everything you skipped on the way back up.

And if you have like golden teleporter you can get more devil/angel deals and error rooms going up.

The mother path tries to sell you that its the more rewarding path and thus needs the difficulty. But its actually the most greedy, cheapsake path. And it even takes your knife away from you. The only positive is you can keep your negative/polaroid and you might get a bit more on one floor (The mirror floor).

The beast path even gives you a free item before dogma and 1 holy mantle charge. The mother fight gives you NOTHING.

[Okami]

Yes, especially since the beast fight doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crash on me all the time, unlike the mother fight, forcing me to redo the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ floor.

[Violeta]

Also I forgot on the way up if you have the stair way angel deals item on the beast path...

[Lusontrix]

Originally posted by Sashie:

Also I forgot on the way up if you have the stair way angel deals item on the beast path...

That item is really busted, well i mean almost all items from the angel pool are really good. I wish the devil pool was like that.