Just reached delirium as tainted lost !

[BROLY 32]

About 60% through the fight, he transformed into Bloat, teleported directly north of me and instantly double brimstoned me, instantly taking both my mantle and my life away
Better luck next time LOL

[dwinters62]

Honestly, that is completely unfair and unavoidable. This dlc is riddled with bs like that.

[Sirius]

Originally posted by dwinters62:

Honestly, that is completely unfair and unavoidable. This dlc is riddled with bs like that.

Repentance broke Delirium hard. Taking damage is nearly impossible now as he seems to like teleporting directly on top of you. Mom's Foot also seems to have gotten its hitbox issue back as I keep getting hit by the shadow more often than I did in Afterbirth+. If they decide to scrap the Void rework idea, I at least hope they fix his current version as it's really buggy.

[CMDR Shven]

I've made a point of keeping track of 'unavoidable' damage I've taken from Delirium while fighting it with other characters and I think my lowest number is 2 hits, but usually more like 4-5. The instant brimstones from off screen, the lightning fast mom's foot stomp that hits before the "Isaac" shout has even played, the teleporting directly into your character model. . . Delirium is a terribly designed fight and I have no desire to even attempt to put the effort into getting a god tier Lost build and making it all the way there knowing there is a really good chance I'll just get instantly killed by something I could not have possibly prevented. I got 100% in the base game and Afterbirth but if they don't patch Delirium it's not ever gonna happen again.

[BROLY 32]

Well, I didn't have a very good build. Next time, I'll just try to find a shield or something.

[SoldierDelta]

It's generally accepted that Delirium is, and always was, crap. Edmund has made it clear that he wants to at least rework him to a much better state. "Rework" as in "completely revamp the fight to not make him the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ monstrosity that he currently is".

Also, and this is my subjective take, I don't really think Repentance broke the already borked boss. He's slightly worse now (heavens knows why), but frankly not by much. You can't really break what's currently and unfixable design.

You'll get the completion mark with time. Cometh the run, cometh the hour

[Man of Culture]

A good combo using tainted lost might be 4.5 volt and Book of Shadows. If you can manage to do enough damage in 7 seconds you could fully charge the book to give yourself a constant stream of 7 second immunity.

[restore]

I dont see any difference, he did these things before and he does it now. It needs some broken combo with invincibility to get him with lost. I dont know why im still trying to hit him with chaos tho...

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by CMDR Shven:

I've made a point of keeping track of 'unavoidable' damage I've taken from Delirium while fighting it with other characters and I think my lowest number is 2 hits, but usually more like 4-5. The instant brimstones from off screen, the lightning fast mom's foot stomp that hits before the "Isaac" shout has even played, the teleporting directly into your character model. . . Delirium is a terribly designed fight and I have no desire to even attempt to put the effort into getting a god tier Lost build and making it all the way there knowing there is a really good chance I'll just get instantly killed by something I could not have possibly prevented. I got 100% in the base game and Afterbirth but if they don't patch Delirium it's not ever gonna happen again.

There are several seconds at the start of the fight where Delirium just sits there in its natural form, which doesn't even have damage scaling (can't call it "boss armor" because it's not exclusive to bosses anymore). The greatest of god-tier runs are capable of killing him before the fight really starts (traditionally victory laps, but hello there R Key...)

[BROLY 32]

I don't think I would have the willpower to use R key as tainted lost while being very late in a run. It's too taxing mentally, I wouldn't be able to stay fully focused for that long.

[Sirius]

Originally posted by SoldierDelta:

It's generally accepted that Delirium is, and always was, crap. Edmund has made it clear that he wants to at least rework him to a much better state. "Rework" as in "completely revamp the fight to not make him the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ monstrosity that he currently is".

Also, and this is my subjective take, I don't really think Repentance broke the already borked boss. He's slightly worse now (heavens knows why), but frankly not by much. You can't really break what's currently and unfixable design.

You'll get the completion mark with time. Cometh the run, cometh the hour

I can confirm that he is nowhere near as broken as he is in Repentance on Afterbirth+. Barring the occassional stomp, damage was fully avoidable and it wasn't -that- hard to beat him with The Lost or The Keeper. Could still be reworked a bit, but he was my favourite boss there and I never saw him as "cheap".
In Repentance, even good builds often don't matter as I remember having low health with a good build and dying due to the fact he teleported on top of me at least 4 times during the fight, probably more. Something about him definitely broke.

[jayhena]

i got my delirium kill with regular lost post repentance, and i had an awful build for the fight. the only thing i had going for me is 9 lives. ludovico spectral mom's knife. tiny damage hitbox, transparent, and wasn't even that strong. took me 11 lives (thanks guppy's collar) to not take damage, with holy mantle from lost and blanket giving me 2 hits every try. the rng of "does delirium decide to turn into mega satan 5 times and spawn 2 horsemen each time" or "does he spend 90% of the fight running around as larry / hollow" is too big

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by jayhena:

i got my delirium kill with regular lost post repentance, and i had an awful build for the fight. the only thing i had going for me is 9 lives. ludovico spectral mom's knife. tiny damage hitbox, transparent, and wasn't even that strong. took me 11 lives (thanks guppy's collar) to not take damage, with holy mantle from lost and blanket giving me 2 hits every try. the rng of "does delirium decide to turn into mega satan 5 times and spawn 2 horsemen each time" or "does he spend 90% of the fight running around as larry / hollow" is too big

Protip: Delirium only transforms into bosses you've fought (potentially only defeated; opportunities to test the distinction are rare), so going to The Void after Mega Satan is less than ideal for reasons other than the 50% chance of not even being allowed to teleport or R Key out afterwards.

[jayhena]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by jayhena:

i got my delirium kill with regular lost post repentance, and i had an awful build for the fight. the only thing i had going for me is 9 lives. ludovico spectral mom's knife. tiny damage hitbox, transparent, and wasn't even that strong. took me 11 lives (thanks guppy's collar) to not take damage, with holy mantle from lost and blanket giving me 2 hits every try. the rng of "does delirium decide to turn into mega satan 5 times and spawn 2 horsemen each time" or "does he spend 90% of the fight running around as larry / hollow" is too big

Protip: Delirium only transforms into bosses you've fought (potentially only defeated; opportunities to test the distinction are rare), so going to The Void after Mega Satan is less than ideal for reasons other than the 50% chance of not even being allowed to teleport or R Key out afterwards.

does hush's first form count ? i'm almost sure i've seen him transform into end game bosses i didn't beat like isaac and blue baby when i went there from hush, or even mom rarely (and yeah, i didn't find these bosses in the alternate boss rooms). does he have a template pool that gets added upon ? because i did notice him using mostly what i fought, but kept seeing stuff out of place, so was never sure

[BROLY 32]

Got some follow up to my post. I was in a gaming mood today and since I managed to reach him once, why not try again today.

Well... I reached him again... and I won !!!
Had nice damage, an extra holy card on me and Birthright who thankfully works on tainted lost and gave me an extra life. He only touched me once, by transforming into a double Chub. I think they spawned on each other and glitched in a weird way so one of them instantly teleported on me...
I was praying the whole time for no more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to happen, it was SO stressful. Glad I'm done with this, still got mother/beast and greedier to do with him, but I think I'll be alright.

[BreakMan]

well good luck kind sir. I beated him with 20/20 and conjoined and on top of it tech zero... 8 seconds and he was gone. Already completed everything on him, don't go hollow ( =