Mars is literally the worst item in the game

[Iris]

Just lost a run due to the insufferable accidental dashing for no reason. "Oh whoops, sorry about this but it's time to dash right into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lava". Seriously considering cheating in this completion mark due to that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as I was cheated out of it. From what I've heard they reworked dark arts so it's beyond me why this item is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Bob's brain, Isaac's heart, Cursed eye, Curse of the Tower >>> Mars.

[weiss]

tho to make it clear
wiki says
"Double tapping a direction makes Isaac quickly dash in that direction."
so, it definitly dosnt triggers on its own. it is the users fault for double tapping in a direction which ... to be fair really often happens in some situations xD.

[Elsuya]

The problem with double tappers is that they're new to Issac.
You never had to double tap to use something. If there were more and more consistent, you eventually would get used to them.

[Josh]

My issue with it is that it seems to be bugged only with a joystick, no idea why, maybe the way the joystick functions makes mars believe youre mashing a direction so it auto triggers, it is pretty annoying but I think its a controller problem.

[Iris]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Elsuya:

The problem with double tappers is that they're new to Issac.
You never had to double tap to use something. If there were more and more consistent, you eventually would get used to them.

This just isn't the case for me anyhow, as someone above mentioned it seems to be a controller thing. I quite literally did not double tap at most points as it was dashing me into every which possible way. Will be spawning Mars in to test on a keyboard tomorrow

[Iris]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Josh:

My issue with it is that it seems to be bugged only with a joystick, no idea why, maybe the way the joystick functions makes mars believe youre mashing a direction so it auto triggers, it is pretty annoying but I think its a controller problem.

Yeah this might be it, will test this out

[Iris]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Chiro:

tho to make it clear
wiki says
"Double tapping a direction makes Isaac quickly dash in that direction."
so, it definitly dosnt triggers on its own. it is the users fault for double tapping in a direction which ... to be fair really often happens in some situations xD.

It was happening when I was moving moving analogue stick, and I made 100% sure I was not "double tapping" here, so I guess it's a controller bug

[Iris]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ToxicBoo:

I never had a problem with it, and worst item in the game? It at least has more utility then plan c does. (Instantly kills everything in the room, including you.)

Well at least with plan C I have the option of whether I would like to die or not

[Rubyeyed]

But Edmund thinks double tapping is good so better suck it up because he knows best.

On a more srious note idk what kind of idiot a dev has to be to introduce double tapping directions to a bullet hell game where quite often you have to make small movements in the same direction to dodge or keep aligned. The mind boggles.

[Cornhole Von Diggler]

Just to comment on mars and my own experience, had a run with the final boss ended because I got sucked up inside of them and died quickly because of the small adjustments you have to make with the fire walls that close in. Accidentally dashed right into the b***'s mouth and was ate within seconds.

Why can't there be an option to assign a key to "double-tap" use items...?

[HeraldOfOpera]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ToxicBoo:

I never had a problem with it, and worst item in the game? It at least has more utility then plan c does. (Instantly kills everything in the room, including you.)

Actually, your death comes a few seconds later. As such, it can be used to cheese some completion marks, or all of them if you can swing Soul of Lazarus (or to get them for Lazarus, because his Rags respawn you in the same room).

[ToxicBoo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af HeraldOfOpera:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ToxicBoo:

I never had a problem with it, and worst item in the game? It at least has more utility then plan c does. (Instantly kills everything in the room, including you.)

Actually, your death comes a few seconds later. As such, it can be used to cheese some completion marks, or all of them if you can swing Soul of Lazarus (or to get them for Lazarus, because his Rags respawn you in the same room).

Could also use inner child to revive in the same room.

[Iris]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rubyeyed:

But Edmund thinks double tapping is good so better suck it up because he knows best.

On a more srious note idk what kind of idiot a dev has to be to introduce double tapping directions to a bullet hell game where quite often you have to make small movements in the same direction to dodge or keep aligned. The mind boggles.

I quite liked the idea someone else had on here of putting the Mars double dash onto the fire button instead of the move button. That seems like it would work better

[Eprico]

Oprindeligt skrevet af 76561198074045488:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rubyeyed:

But Edmund thinks double tapping is good so better suck it up because he knows best.

On a more srious note idk what kind of idiot a dev has to be to introduce double tapping directions to a bullet hell game where quite often you have to make small movements in the same direction to dodge or keep aligned. The mind boggles.

I quite liked the idea someone else had on here of putting the Mars double dash onto the fire button instead of the move button. That seems like it would work better

That would be way better. In fact, didn't he already do that with that angel deal item that summons a shield? Why'd he change it for Mars lmao?

[Elsuya]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Eprico:

Oprindeligt skrevet af 76561198074045488:

I quite liked the idea someone else had on here of putting the Mars double dash onto the fire button instead of the move button. That seems like it would work better

That would be way better. In fact, didn't he already do that with that angel deal item that summons a shield? Why'd he change it for Mars lmao?

I assume, that one is a projectile type of thing while other is movement.

[Toxi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Seth:

I think the dash should be when u double tap the fire button and not the move button.

I like this idea too, but there is the issue of items like Chocolate Milk and Divine Intervention.

I was thinking it could be moved as an active item in the consumables slot, but even there, it headbutts with the tainted characters.
another option would be the Ctrl key + direction, or even the Shift key. Even that would be fine by me, since this is a pseudo-passive item, that considering its cooldown acts more like a recharging single use active item.