Alabaster box has been fixed :\

[Warlord4Hikage]

Now it have not full charge after craft as Tainted Cain

[orian34]

Originally posted by The Overlord:

Now it have not full charge after craft as Tainted Cain :wht:

What about echo chamber though. It's much more fun

[Warlord4Hikage]

Originally posted by orian34:

Originally posted by The Overlord:

Now it have not full charge after craft as Tainted Cain

What about echo chamber though. It's much more fun

You think?

[Warlord4Hikage]

And then what?
They fix Echo chamber.

[Warlord4Hikage]

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

Originally posted by The Overlord:

And then what?
They fix Echo chamber.

cry about it

echo chamber is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ busted and you know it

devs want to avoid one- or two-item breaks to keep the balance of the game. tboi is a roguelike and roguelikes are supposed to be difficult. if you want to break the game, you need to work for it.
if you think otherwise, stop playing this game because it's not for you

I playing in Dead Cells and it's not so difficult as you saying about roguelike

[WitchAmy]

Originally posted by The Overlord:

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

cry about it

echo chamber is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ busted and you know it

devs want to avoid one- or two-item breaks to keep the balance of the game. tboi is a roguelike and roguelikes are supposed to be difficult. if you want to break the game, you need to work for it.
if you think otherwise, stop playing this game because it's not for you

They want to destroy the meaning of destroying the game.

Yes, my english is very bad.

you can still break the game lol

the combo is no longer simply given to you on a silver plate every run

[Galetozin]

the devs of this game are sooo stupid imagine you found that ppl somehow is having fun with our ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game so you put it out

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

Originally posted by The Overlord:

And then what?
They fix Echo chamber.

cry about it

echo chamber is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ busted and you know it

devs want to avoid one- or two-item breaks to keep the balance of the game. tboi is a roguelike and roguelikes are supposed to be difficult. if you want to break the game, you need to work for it.
if you think otherwise, stop playing this game because it's not for you

Original Rogue was about the randomness rather than difficulty. You could have a hard, basically impossible run or you could have an OP run with zero effort needed.

Vast majority of roguelike/roguelite games understand this and allow for both.

This idea that roguelike/lite games have to be challenging came from literally nowhere and is just projecting on part of "muh hardcore" crowd.

[WitchAmy]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

cry about it

echo chamber is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ busted and you know it

devs want to avoid one- or two-item breaks to keep the balance of the game. tboi is a roguelike and roguelikes are supposed to be difficult. if you want to break the game, you need to work for it.
if you think otherwise, stop playing this game because it's not for you

Original Rogue was about the randomness rather than difficulty. You could have a hard, basically impossible run or you could have an OP run with zero effort needed.

Vast majority of roguelike/roguelite games understand this and allow for both.

This idea that roguelike/lite games have to be challenging came from literally nowhere and is just projecting on part of "muh hardcore" crowd.

even if you are right, it still doesn't make up to the fact that alabaster bside cain was busted, breaking the spirit of tboi

[YCGTW]

Originally posted by Galetozin:

the devs of this game are sooo stupid imagine you found that ppl somehow is having fun with our ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game so you put it out

Imagine realizing your work was not presented how you intended so you decide to fix it.

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Original Rogue was about the randomness rather than difficulty. You could have a hard, basically impossible run or you could have an OP run with zero effort needed.

Vast majority of roguelike/roguelite games understand this and allow for both.

This idea that roguelike/lite games have to be challenging came from literally nowhere and is just projecting on part of "muh hardcore" crowd.

even if you are right, it still doesn't make up to the fact that alabaster bside cain was busted, breaking the spirit of tboi

And I say that is ok. People who want to challenge themselves do not have to use it. People who want to use it can use it.

Do not see a problem with it, personally. Why deny one if you can have both?

[Warlord4Hikage]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

even if you are right, it still doesn't make up to the fact that alabaster bside cain was busted, breaking the spirit of tboi

And I say that is ok. People who want to challenge themselves do not have to use it. People who want to use it can use it.

Do not see a problem with it, personally. Why deny one if you can have both?

+

[YCGTW]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

even if you are right, it still doesn't make up to the fact that alabaster bside cain was busted, breaking the spirit of tboi

And I say that is ok. People who want to challenge themselves do not have to use it. People who want to use it can use it.

Do not see a problem with it, personally. Why deny one if you can have both?

When everyone's beloved mod access is available again then the noobs can butcher the game as much as they want. Until then the only choice you have is to play the game as it was intended. Tough life.

[Calamity Heart]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Original Rogue was about the randomness rather than difficulty. You could have a hard, basically impossible run or you could have an OP run with zero effort needed.

Vast majority of roguelike/roguelite games understand this and allow for both.

This idea that roguelike/lite games have to be challenging came from literally nowhere and is just projecting on part of "muh hardcore" crowd.

Um... Isaac still understands this and allows for both. You can most definitely STILL have either a very difficult run or an OP zero-effort run with Isaac based on the randomness of the items you find. The Alabaster Box nerf didn't change this. In fact, it -helped- it.

Being able to craft your own items is a neat gimmick, but if you know how to set up something that allows you to effortlessly generate every crafting material in the game, then you've altogether removed the randomness AND the difficulty, and lost the spirit of Rogue and roguelikes.

That's what Alabaster Box + Tainted Cain could do. That's why it deserved to be nerfed, and that's why the game is better for it, even though a hilarious break is now gone.

[Fingusa of the East]

Originally posted by YCGTW:

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

And I say that is ok. People who want to challenge themselves do not have to use it. People who want to use it can use it.

Do not see a problem with it, personally. Why deny one if you can have both?

When everyone's beloved mod access is available again then the noobs can butcher the game as much as they want. Until then the only choice you have is to play the game as it was intended. Tough life.

You mean the way the dev has decided out of nowhere, alienating a good amount of the community in the process, for no good reason.

I mean, a good choice there would be to communicate this before loading the shotgun and putting it to the head of about 30% of the community, just saying. They did pay for the game as well, they played it, their voice should matter.

[Warlord4Hikage]

Originally posted by Fingusa of the East:

Originally posted by YCGTW:

When everyone's beloved mod access is available again then the noobs can butcher the game as much as they want. Until then the only choice you have is to play the game as it was intended. Tough life.

You mean the way the dev has decided out of nowhere, alienating a good amount of the community in the process, for no good reason.

I mean, a good choice there would be to communicate this before loading the shotgun and putting it to the head of about 30% of the community, just saying. They did pay for the game as well, they played it, their voice should matter.

You dame right