Can i just hate how the devil deals work post afterbirth?

[Flytrap]

I know its been years since afterbirth came out, but im mentioning this because with each of the 3 DLC's that released, every single one watered down the devil pool in some way.

In afterbirth, they added rooms that dont contain devil deals, then they kept adding useless junk items into the pool to water it down, then made krampus have like a stupidly high chance of appearing, resulting in seeing him in 70% of all my runs

The point of a devil deal, is that players would take a risk, to get powerful items, now even if we win the risk, even with the significantly harder game, it still has around a 30% ish chance that we wont even get a devil deal in the first place, let alone something worthwhile!

Why must you do this ed

[Stolen]

Sure you can hate it, it's your opinion. Personally I get excited every time I walk in, just to be let down most of the time.

[FrozenStar]

Both angel and devil rooms are completely fine.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by nAm:

Sure you can hate it, it's your opinion. Personally I get excited every time I walk in, just to be let down most of the time.

Really? You like being let down?

[YCGTW]

Originally posted by Flytrap:

Originally posted by nAm:

Sure you can hate it, it's your opinion. Personally I get excited every time I walk in, just to be let down most of the time.

Really? You like being let down?

It's crazy what binding of Isaac does to a man.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by YCGTW:

Originally posted by Flytrap:

Really? You like being let down?

It's crazy what binding of Isaac does to a man.

Yea. I cant argue with that

[The Renderer]

Wait, what "risk" are you taking and "winning" in order to get a devil deal? Didn't know not getting hit is a risk now?

[YCGTW]

Originally posted by The Renderer:

Wait, what "risk" are you taking and "winning" in order to get a devil deal? Didn't know not getting hit is a risk now?

The risk now is screwing up your angel room chances for a measly 2 black hearts, which is fine with me tbh.

[Rio]

just don't take devil deals anymore.

[❤️ニューハーフ]

Devil room are no longer worth at all, best thing you can do is to skip them completly for angel rooms

[XZero]

I very rarely bother unless playing as the characters who can really use them.

Keeper gets to spend money on them now. The Lost gets one freebie.

Or if I somehow find a ton of heart containers, then... maybe.



Really lame that you can’t even see what you could get, if you want to maximize Angel Room chance. It makes them even worse.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by YCGTW:

Originally posted by The Renderer:

Wait, what "risk" are you taking and "winning" in order to get a devil deal? Didn't know not getting hit is a risk now?

The risk now is screwing up your angel room chances for a measly 2 black hearts, which is fine with me tbh.

Why are angel rooms so loved now?

[jayhena]

Originally posted by Flytrap:

Originally posted by YCGTW:

The risk now is screwing up your angel room chances for a measly 2 black hearts, which is fine with me tbh.

Why are angel rooms so loved now?

less chances of having no items (like the 3 / 5 red chests devil deal or the 2 black heart and imp one), good additions to the pool (to not say broken, stairway and revelation to name 2), and not having to pay. you can force the first angel room now, and then get the key piece to continue having them, which is way more reliable than having to take the 50/50 pre repentance

[Backstabba]

Originally posted by Flytrap:

Originally posted by YCGTW:

The risk now is screwing up your angel room chances for a measly 2 black hearts, which is fine with me tbh.

Why are angel rooms so loved now?

Its soley because they weren't royally screwed over by the devs.

Also being honest angel room meta is rather boring as you don't risk anything for taking them so even if its a bad item its still better then being offered a bad item in a devil deal.

Also most tainted character's baseline unlocks (Aka unlocking new mechanics for all future runs) are tied to mega Satan with the exception of tainted Eden's whose is tied to delirium meaning you'd need the angel key pieces

[Rio]

Also devil beggers are kinda trash now unless your red hp is high. So getting a room with 3 or more isn't very good anymore.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by jayhena:

Originally posted by Flytrap:

Why are angel rooms so loved now?

less chances of having no items (like the 3 / 5 red chests devil deal or the 2 black heart and imp one), good additions to the pool (to not say broken, stairway and revelation to name 2), and not having to pay. you can force the first angel room now, and then get the key piece to continue having them, which is way more reliable than having to take the 50/50 pre repentance

How do you force angel rooms?