The Lost, and Special Door leading to the Ascent

[[DL] Ex Inferis]

So I've had this game for ages, and have most unlocks (aside from the new DLC ones) and for some reason I cannot unlock the lost... I've taken mom's shovel and used it in the Dark Room and watched the lost go off screen, then beaten the Lamb and I get nothing. I've done this many times on several characters. With the new DLC, I can't seem to find the Special Door leading to the Ascent lvls, even after beating mom and teleporting out once I get the Polaroid.

Separate issues? Or do I have a corrupt file and need to start anew? Or am I just doing something wrong?

Thanks

[jayhena]

the shovel unlocks the forgotten, not the lost, it's the soul that flies out of the grave. did you beat mother atleast once, that's what unlocks the strange door

[FrozenStar]

What the.
Imagine reading wiki to spoil stuff for yourself and still failing to do it properly.

1. Shovel unlocks the forgotten and you need to do it ONLY ONCE
2. To unlock the door you have to beat the Mother. THE MOTHER. Not "Mom"
M O T H E R
Alright?

[[DL] Ex Inferis]

Originally posted by jayhena:

the shovel unlocks the forgotten, not the lost, it's the soul that flies out of the grave. did you beat mother atleast once, that's what unlocks the strange door

Thanks for the correction (I have unlocked The Lost). So when I do all that ♥♥♥♥ with mom's shovel, why has the forgotten not been unlocked?

[Sapatos]

Originally posted by Ex Inferis:

Originally posted by jayhena:

the shovel unlocks the forgotten, not the lost, it's the soul that flies out of the grave. did you beat mother atleast once, that's what unlocks the strange door

Thanks for the correction (I have unlocked The Lost). So when I do all that ♥♥♥♥ with mom's shovel, why has the forgotten not been unlocked?

Were you using mods? Maybe something that was restricting unlocks?

[JellyPuff]

@FrozenStar: You do realize, that there also exist non-arrogant options to reply to a question or post, right?

@Thread:
Spoilerinos ahead.

As already mentioned, what you've done was the unlocking method for The Forgotten.

The Lost has to be unlocked by dying with the Missing Poster trinket held to Sacrifice Room spikes. The Missing Poster trinket in turn is unlocked by beating The Lamb as Isaac.

The Ascend door is unlocked by defeating Mother. It's the new endboss for the alt-paths. The alt-path is unlocked by defeating Hush 3 times, if you haven't done so already. To open the final chapter of the alt-path in Mausoleum II, you also have to find 2 knife-pieces found in Downpour II and Mines II.

After defeating Mother once, a door leading to a special version of Mausoleum will always appear at Depths II. Also, Depths II will now always contain a special marked skull with a "The Fool" card inside.

Little reminder, that doing reruns, victory laps or playing with seeds or the debug console enabled will prevent unlocks.

[[DL] Ex Inferis]

@Sheos, @Jellypuff

Victory Laps don't count eh? That explains it. Every time I have gotten Moms shovel and done everything that followed was on a victory lap. Thanks for clarifying. Much appreciated.

[JellyPuff]

For future reference, there will always be a crossed trophy symbol below your pickups on the middle-left of the screen, signifying that unlocks/achievements are currently disabled.
Same with dailies and challenge runs. The exception of course, are unlocks, that specifically require challenge runs, dailies or victory laps to be completed.

[FrozenStar]

Originally posted by JellyPuff:

@FrozenStar: You do realize, that there also exist non-arrogant options to reply to a question or post, right?

Ask stupid questions, receive stupid replies.

[JellyPuff]

Originally posted by FrozenStar:

stupid replies. :squirtmeh:

At least that part's right.

Just try a more friendlier tone or don't reply at all.