I HATE JACOB AND ESAU

[Bill Cipher]

i find these characters harder than everyone else. does somebody have any tips for them?

[CraigTheThing]

This is more of a strategy then general tips, but it's worked pretty well for me so far:

1. Put most of your health/defensive items into Jacob, he'll act as Esau's meat-shield.

2. Put all your offensive items into Esau, since he has a higher damage stat then Jacob.

3. I'd highly recommend going to Downpour and Mines for it's guaranteed double item rooms. (If you set Jacob and Esau up to where they both touch the item pedestals at the same time, you'll get both items. This also works for the Polaroid and Negative)

4. Before entering rooms, put Jacob in front of Esau so he'll be more likely to get hit then Esau.

5. Don't be afraid to take a few seconds to get J&E close together.

6. Jacob goes into cursed rooms, as red hearts are much more easy to obtain the soul hearts.

7. If you walk into a button room (room where there's a bunch of environmental hazards that can only be cleared with a button) send Jacob in and put Esau where he can't get hurt.

[RZA]

There is only one tip I can leave you and that's to continue playing as them. You will get bad runs no matter what, even more so because J&B are separate characters. However, you will eventually get good runs with them.

[restore]

No amount of tips will help if any try to use a card will end up firing random item or card because of controls, its really frustrating. I cant even unlock tainted jacob as all 5 tries ended by wasting fool card while trying to do something else ><

[Homosexual Chicken Nugget]

Angel rooms

[OverlordMagikarp]

always take blind items as one character so you wont screw yourself with both and remember to go into shops above all else for theres options/more options/birthright

[Dyne]

make sure you line them up directly horizontally or vertically whenever you can depending on where the enemy shots are coming from; reducing their hitbox width helps a lot

[derufuu]

Originally posted by Homosexual Chicken Nugget:

Angel rooms

seconding this, since a lot of angel rooms will give you a choice of 2-3 items which lets you take one as each character using the strategy Craigory mentioned for double item rooms. the strat also means there's options and more options are great pickups as they're essentially double items, so checking shops is a good idea too

also devil rooms have been poopoo since afterbirth and angel rooms have been super buffed in repentance, so this is good advice for any character too

[atro city]

I swear I wouldn't be surprised if there was code to force every run with Jacob/Esau to be filled with garbage items. Isaac's Tears, Kamikaze, Unicorn Stump, Lazarus' Rags/Ankh, it's all there, every run. Sacred heart, Revelation, Holy Light, Trisagon and the like have completely vanished from Angel rooms for dozens of runs. No more stopwatches or anything of use in the shop, just the Ladder and Mom's Bottle of Tears and Health Down.

This character is cursed.

[Sculltex]

Always go angel rooms with these two. Some angel rooms have multiple item pedestals that you can cheese, much like the alt path. That and angel rooms are generally better than devil rooms in the long run.

[o0Champ0o]

I love how the general solution is just "get both items", which means you ALWAYS gotta go through the much more difficult floors but also doesnt negate the fact that most obstacles and shot patterns are NOT intended for a double hitbox.