Suggestion: First Treasure Room has 3-5 items u can choose from

[fluem]

The first treasure room (first floor) should be reworked. I see many streamers and myself restarting all over again to have at least a "kind of" useful item at the beginning.

Restarting feels frustating and annoying so i think it should be better to choose from 3-5 items.

Its just a help to shorten the start of a run and makes the game more comfortable..

What do u think?

[WitchAmy]

Stupid idea

The whole point of the game is to take what it gives you and trying to complete the run with it.

[fluem]

Did u read "First Treasure Room"? Because people restart when the first item is trash..

[Pantheon]

Originally posted by fluem:

Because people restart when the first item is trash..

Who are these "people", exactly? I'm certainly not one of them.
I'll take what I'm given.
I'm sure there are easier ways to cheat in this game then to restart over and over.

[fluem]

I know there are people like u both who play every run no matter whats the first item..
I mean, theres a win streak indicator..but i only play for 100%..and believe me, i dont start with flush or guillotine etc. :D

This game is max time consuming and i think it would be a QOL feature..

[WitchAmy]

QOL?

More like cheat mode

I'll repeat: The entire point of a rogue like is not to restart the run until it gives you what you want.
Take what you see or don't do it.

[Miles (Tails) Prower]

Not really loving the idea, tbh. It is free anyway, no need to use a key. Gives you good opportunity also visit the shop. Also, this will ruin one exact item, which is also comes from the shop. You may never know, what you may pull them off in the first floor.

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

Stupid idea

The whole point of the game is to take what it gives you and trying to complete the run with it.

Point of this game to Press R as much as you need

[SoldierDelta]

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Originally posted by Blind, the Bound Demon:

Stupid idea

The whole point of the game is to take what it gives you and trying to complete the run with it.

Point of this game to Press R as much as you need

If that's what you think the game is about, you really don't understand Isaac to any degree.
The point of a rougelike is to work with the hand you are given. Most of the time that hand sucks, but you always have a chance. Holding R to get a good item isn't fun. It's monotonous.
Repentance at least fixes that by making almost every item at least usable to a degree.

[fluem]

I disagree..The entire point of a game (no matter if its rogue-like or something else..)is to have fun..and for me its no fun to restart..

And..tbh..i dont believe u never restarted when ur first item was trash..everyone restarts..

but..if u made this challenge to never restart..thats ok..u can play with my idea and skip the first item room and u have chance for planetarium ;)

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by SoldierDelta:

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Point of this game to Press R as much as you need

If that's what you think the game is about, you really don't understand Isaac to any degree.
The point of a rougelike is to work with the hand you are given. Most of the time that hand sucks, but you always have a chance. Holding R to get a good item isn't fun. It's monotonous.
Repentance at least fixes that by making almost every item at least usable to a degree.

If that's what you think the game is about, you really don't understand Isaac to any degree.
The point of a rougelike is to win. Most of the time that hand sucks, but you always have a chance, but in Isaac item pools are filled with pure shot. Holding R to get a good item isn't fun, but it's a part of the game.

[fluem]

Originally posted by SoldierDelta:

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Point of this game to Press R as much as you need

If that's what you think the game is about, you really don't understand Isaac to any degree.
The point of a rougelike is to work with the hand you are given. Most of the time that hand sucks, but you always have a chance. Holding R to get a good item isn't fun. It's monotonous.
Repentance at least fixes that by making almost every item at least usable to a degree.

Did u rly understand that i only mean first item room? Everyone who loves isaac knows that its random and u get what u get..my point is do shorten the start..

[SoldierDelta]

Originally posted by fluem:

Originally posted by SoldierDelta:

If that's what you think the game is about, you really don't understand Isaac to any degree.
The point of a rougelike is to work with the hand you are given. Most of the time that hand sucks, but you always have a chance. Holding R to get a good item isn't fun. It's monotonous.
Repentance at least fixes that by making almost every item at least usable to a degree.

Did u rly understand that i only mean first item room? Everyone who loves isaac knows that its random and u get what u get..my point is do shorten the start..

I still don't think it's a good idea. Though, it would be a good mod. I actually recommend asking someone to make it, as some people would like it. As an official idea, i don't think it's that great. However for the everyman who wants to have a quicker start, I don't have much of an issue with it.

[Simoko]

and what if all 5 items are bad?

[fluem]

Originally posted by SoldierDelta:

Originally posted by fluem:

Did u rly understand that i only mean first item room? Everyone who loves isaac knows that its random and u get what u get..my point is do shorten the start..

I still don't think it's a good idea. Though, it would be a good mod. I actually recommend asking someone to make it, as some people would like it. As an official idea, i don't think it's that great. However for the everyman who wants to have a quicker start, I don't have much of an issue with it.

i appreciate ur understanding and ty to be part of this discussion.

[fluem]

Originally posted by Simoko:

and what if all 5 items are bad?

then u dont need to restart 4 times..only 1 time and give it another roll ;)