Did they fix the Tainted Cain exploit.

[Schorl Tourmaline]

Just Curious. Just spent an hour working up some Eden's Blessings, and after the run I went to another character and had no bonus items. Just curious, and I would understand if they decided to fix that.

[mr worldwide]

Originally posted by Monke:

This thread has nothing to do with "fun" character tho. Its about how you break other characters with him.

Read what I said and think it through a couple of times

[UwU]

Originally posted by mr worldwide:

Originally posted by Monke:

This thread has nothing to do with "fun" character tho. Its about how you break other characters with him.

Read what I said and think it through a couple of times

Then why the f you're even typing it in non-related thread. And I'm the one who needs to think about what you wrote, riiiight...

[Schorl Tourmaline]

As the person who started this thread, I think that I agree that T. Cain being able to affect other runs with Eden's Blessing is a bit much. It's not even on a "fun" level that I think that this exploit is a problem, but on the fact that it actually endorses an unfun way of playing the game. While I'll admit to using it, several times, the process of getting 10 Eden's Blessings is so long and drawn out that it takes 30 mins to an hour farming it all. at that point I might as well just cheat, because I'm wasting my life on a run to prep for another run.

What I endorse is enjoyable gameplay, and this exploit is hardly enjoyable. While I'll agree that I wish a lot of things were not nerfed in this update, and that a single player game really shouldn't NEED nerfs to begin with, is the answer to this really going to be that you waste your time farming for ten extra items (which could be a complete waste as Eden's Blessing can start you off with a bad item)? If this is really what you think is needed in the game, then I have to ask why you're even playing the game at this point.

[Confuzz]

Originally posted by Schorl Tourmaline:

As the person who started this thread, I think that I agree that T. Cain being able to affect other runs with Eden's Blessing is a bit much. It's not even on a "fun" level that I think that this exploit is a problem, but on the fact that it actually endorses an unfun way of playing the game. While I'll admit to using it, several times, the process of getting 10 Eden's Blessings is so long and drawn out that it takes 30 mins to an hour farming it all. at that point I might as well just cheat, because I'm wasting my life on a run to prep for another run.

What I endorse is enjoyable gameplay, and this exploit is hardly enjoyable. While I'll agree that I wish a lot of things were not nerfed in this update, and that a single player game really shouldn't NEED nerfs to begin with, is the answer to this really going to be that you waste your time farming for ten extra items (which could be a complete waste as Eden's Blessing can start you off with a bad item)? If this is really what you think is needed in the game, then I have to ask why you're even playing the game at this point.

Your second paragraph is a distillation of what I believe, even if I did not convey it so eloquently. Thank you for this, and I apologize for hijacking the original intent of the thread.

The spirit of the game (or if it suits you, the spirit of this game's challenge) lies in overcoming unfavorable odds through repetition, familiarity, and eventually...mastery. Choosing to use a wiki, platinumgod, Youtube, Reddit, or various other resources all lie in line with the game's *intended* experience.

As a paying consumer, you do have every right to experience your game in the way that you choose.
You do not, however, have the right to influence the *intended experience* of a medium by right of having an opinion.

Consumers (especially of Early Access games) are increasingly selfish and arrogant with their personalized demands now more than ever, and are frequently disconnected with the vision of the spirit of the product in question - in this instance, the game. It's saddening to see the number of people who leave unfavorable reviews or otherwise disparage Repentance that clearly and unashamedly skip through the content.

EDIT: I almost forgot, didn't want to doublepost before. @Tipisch this is why I've avoided playing dirty Cain (and Lazarus, tbh) until the dust settles. With all of the other, functional content to play with, I'm happy to wait on a couple of pieces until they work as intended.

[NW/RL]

You can add 10 Eden's blessings w/ the debug console, turn off mods & the console, and still get the items on your next run

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by NW/RL:

You can add 10 Eden's blessings w/ the debug console, turn off mods & the console, and still get the items on your next run

Don't even need to turn those things off if you've beaten Mom.

[Confuzz]

I have to ask why you're even playing the game at this point.