Can't get repentance without owning afterbirth and afterbirth + ?

[Ketrai]

I was wondering about repentance because bethany with all the new synergies looks very fun to play. But it seems you can't even buy it on steam without also buying afterbirth and afterbirth + ?

I know repentance builds on afterbirth content, but it still feels kinda cheap to offer DLC for DLC... I've got nothing against the individual DLCs, they all offer well crafted packages, but I just wish you could opt into the ones you like the sound of the most.

[Pantheon]

Originally posted by Mom Ferret:

I just wish you could opt into the ones you like the sound of the most.

That doesn't make sense, though. You said it yourself: it builds on previous content. It needs the content to function.

[Ketrai]

Yeah, but that's by choice. They could've still made seperate cases for owning one DLC, but not the others. The only new area afterbirth adds is the void? And I guess greed mode. Like, other than item synergies there isn't anything fundamental from afterbirth/+ that it would need to work around for one dlc to be valid.

This isn't such a long shot that it excuses DLC for DLC.

[Mister Zuluu]

I get why you aren't happy about it but you got something missing. The actual dynamics of the game has changed with every expansion of BOI. If you had each version seperately and were able to play them, you would notice that they would all play a bit different. Be quite expensive for them to sell not only what the built up to but to maintain older versions of the game

[JellyPuff]

A lot of the unlocks and content for Repentance require AB and AB+ content to be present, or the whole thing would fall apart. They are intertwined. Segregrating them either would've compromised functionality by lot or hugely increased developement time, since it would mean coding dependencies, mechanics, balance and synergies depending on what combination of base game+DLC you have.

Originally posted by Ketrai:

The only new area afterbirth adds is the void?

Burning Basement, Flooded Caves, Dank Depths, Scarred Womb, "???", loads of new enemies, room layouts, items, etc...it's a crazy amount of stuff AB and AB+ add to the mix.

Maybe give Antibirth a try. It's the mod Repentance is based on and only works with Rebirth.

[Fingusa of the East]

I getcha. The price of entry for BoI is kinda high at this point. Feels like the dev assumes everyone has been buying the DLCs as they came out while forgetting about all the new guys joining along the way.

Hope this is not about greed cause it would be rather ironic considering the Greed Mode in the game itself.

[Apfel | Seb]

I understand that there might be DLCs you are more interested in than others but it is how it is and imo this is nothing one should rant about. The Bundle containing Afterbirth, AB+ and Repentance is worth the price and the previous DLCs are often offered with a huge discount.
The Repentance DLC would not be playable without AB / AB+ and imo that's a good thing.
Some people like it more if content is build on top of another instead of being completely split apart from other dlcs.