What's the new tear cap and is there a mod to change it back?

[bo]

I hate the new 2.73 base tear rate that goes up with each tear upgrade. It's so confusing and makes the Tear Delay down items even more confusing.

[jayhena]

the tear stat used to be frames between each shot, now it's shot per second, old 5 cap would be 6 on the new display i think, since the game calculates with 30 frame per second iirc.

[bo]

I just had a run with capricorn and cancer which should be -3 tear delay and my cap would be 2 on the old system. When I took cancer I got +1. So old -1 tear delay is now +0.5. With capricorn and cancer my tear rate capped at 6.5. So max tear rate is 5? But I definetaly had run with tear rate over 5 with no tear delay items. It's just confusing, they changed something noone had problems with imo

[Box]

The trend towards 0 was limiting in that values for incredibly high fire rates (such as Soy and Almond) became difficult to present in a way that could be readily understood, and differentiated.

Making it tears per second is much more legible when the numbers keep getting bigger rather than closer and closer to 0.

[Daemonologist]

Tears delay to rate of fire on the HUD is just a display thing and makes more sense really as it's a more immediately meaningful number, even if it's confusing at 1st to those of us that have been playing for years.

The absolute maximum fire rate (tear delay 1) in AB+ gave 15 tears per second, most easily obtained via soy milk & high tears stat. Formula was RoF=30/(TD+1) for those interested, I'm not sure if it's changed in repentance or not. TD caps were minimum 5 by tear stats, minimum 1 including tear delay down effects.

There is a line in the patch notes for repentance stating that "-Rate of fire can now be improved beyond the previous limit, allowing items such as Soy Milk to benefit from tears upgrades.", suggesting it's now possible to achieve more than 15 tears per second if you stack enough tears up and tear delay down items though, so at least something has changed, but that could just be that tear delay now goes down to 0 for 30 tears per second and the tear stat cap on tear delay being lower, rather than necessarily a formula change.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Daemonologist:

The absolute maximum fire rate (tear delay 1) in AB+ gave 15 tears per second, most easily obtained via soy milk & high tears stat.

Actually, Soy Milk's formula is so absurd that base tears are dropped to the hardcap. In turn, this means that you can combine it with Mutant Spider and still get tear delay back down to 1.

[Meztelen (猪虼螂)]

The cap seems really high (I wonder if there's even one), so far the highest I got was 23 something.