Edmund, why?

[Sgt. YippyYap]

Why Edmundo
Like I know you wanted to make this game harder... but why this. It's so unbalanced and crazy. It actually reminds me of some of the mods, where the creators think about a crazy idea and think it will work, but they overdo it and make it impossible. But those are creators who are making their first mod, they get carried away.
But this shouldn't happen with you...

like, the alternative path is already difficult. But why are there those alt floors that are for some reason harder than dark room? And why do I keep getting alt floors. I literally only get alt floors. And when I do, I know it's game over. Especially Ashpit. I don't know what was going through y'all's heads when you were thinking about that, and even more so when you were actually putting it in the game. Like oh my god I get ashpit and I just restart the run.

Also what is with the item RNG... I keep getting the same bad items on different runs. Like how is it possible that I have a Bethany run where I get no active items in the shop or in the item room, except one from the literally first floor, that's also useless. And then I don't even get any damage ups. except one minor upgrade at the end. I had to fight the -redacted- with 4.08 damage, with other complete garbage items as well so I couldn't even make that work. I almost killed -redacted- too, and considering I fought it for the first time and also had the trashiest build with no synergy, I'm counting it as a win

Why is this how it is
Why, Ed
Why ruin the game

Also, take pills? WHY
Literally every pill I took was either bad or neutral/could be worse in a wrong situation
Like, why are you lying xD

[SilverTank]

Last dlc so he made it hard :D
But look, i think the game is not that hard rn, it was easy before and now it has been normalized. A lot changed and we have got new ~ almost ~ unbeatable combos (but for some reason, a lot loves to cry about the game )

Like oh my god I get ashpit and I just restart the run.

And this is the reason why you didnt bacome better. If u get it, try to abuse the lvl and learn the move patters/enemy behavs.

[NickyW]

Originally posted by SilverTank:

Last dlc so he made it hard :D
But look, i think the game is not that hard rn, it was easy before and now it has been normalized. A lot changed and we have got new ~ almost ~ unbeatable combos (but for some reason, a lot loves to cry about the game :stress:)

Like oh my god I get ashpit and I just restart the run.

And this is the reason why you didnt bacome better. If u get it, try to abuse the lvl and learn the move patters/enemy behavs.

You are in every thread telling everyone they are wrong for finding the new DLC badly balanced, yet you never raise any argument for your points, you took a single sentence from the original post and went for an easy gotcha instead of trying to push an actual argument. If anything, seeing you comment on all these posts is just convincing me that you're having some buyer's remorse or something.

[BreakMan]

item nerf like maw of the void like are outageous. final final boss is too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tanky and has too many phases. besides that I think that this game is pretty good rn.

[SilverTank]

Originally posted by Joe:

Originally posted by SilverTank:

Last dlc so he made it hard :D
But look, i think the game is not that hard rn, it was easy before and now it has been normalized. A lot changed and we have got new ~ almost ~ unbeatable combos (but for some reason, a lot loves to cry about the game )

And this is the reason why you didnt bacome better. If u get it, try to abuse the lvl and learn the move patters/enemy behavs.

You are in every thread telling everyone they are wrong for finding the new DLC badly balanced, yet you never raise any argument for your points, you took a single sentence from the original post and went for an easy gotcha instead of trying to push an actual argument. If anything, seeing you comment on all these posts is just convincing me that you're having some buyer's remorse or something.

Yeah because they are acting like the same childish -annoying- way.
They are having a hissy fit because a game became harder, omg what's gonna happen with us :D
Don't be outrageous, i've done everything in ab+ and I'm gonna do the same with the repentance as well. As I mentioned in an other thread, I feel the same: some nerfing went too far BUT the main concept was right.
Should I raise an argument? Ok: The main game was so easy, some thrown a tantrum when we had got the ab extension, and then in ab+ they made the ultra hard challange as a response.
Some of you are acting like you can't adapt the new style of the game but a lot of other ppl can! Can't you all get that they gave us a ton of new (and op) items/trinkets with some juicy sinergies.
I know that this is not the old way BUT think about it like this: the old method might have been the wrong one! (At least as we can see in Edmund's eye) (I assume you did not use for instance the normal mode either (But now it became a thing))

[Bluddy]

The game is awesome now. So many things that were never thought about were rethought carefully. There's one issue: the game was so easy before that they needed to add ridiculous bosses like Hush. It was so easy to get OP and breeze through that they needed to add something to do like Boss Rush. Now that the basics of the game are finally more carefully balanced, it may be time to reconsider the difficulty of these previously hastily added elements.

[SilverTank]

And one more thing: now the game, in difficulty, started to show similarities with the original flash based game and as we might know, Edmund wanted this all the time.
Is this enough argument raising for you?

[[Ω]SCHIZO LOGI PAPI]

Originally posted by SilverTank:

Originally posted by Joe:

You are in every thread telling everyone they are wrong for finding the new DLC badly balanced, yet you never raise any argument for your points, you took a single sentence from the original post and went for an easy gotcha instead of trying to push an actual argument. If anything, seeing you comment on all these posts is just convincing me that you're having some buyer's remorse or something.

Yeah because they are acting like the same childish -annoying- way.
They are having a hissy fit because a game became harder, omg what's gonna happen with us :D
Don't be outrageous, i've done everything in ab+ and I'm gonna do the same with the repentance as well. As I mentioned in an other thread, I feel the same: some nerfing went too far BUT the main concept was right.
Should I raise an argument? Ok: The main game was so easy, some thrown a tantrum when we had got the ab extension, and then in ab+ they made the ultra hard challange as a response.
Some of you are acting like you can't adapt the new style of the game but a lot of other ppl can! Can't you all get that they gave us a ton of new (and op) items/trinkets with some juicy sinergies.
I know that this is not the old way BUT think about it like this: the old method might have been the wrong one! (At least as we can see in Edmund's eye) (I assume you did not use for instance the normal mode either (But now it became a thing))

too bad i get the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ items every run, i got almost none of those great new item u talkin bout lmao

[SilverTank]

Originally posted by shogunate:

Originally posted by SilverTank:

Yeah because they are acting like the same childish -annoying- way.
They are having a hissy fit because a game became harder, omg what's gonna happen with us :D
Don't be outrageous, i've done everything in ab+ and I'm gonna do the same with the repentance as well. As I mentioned in an other thread, I feel the same: some nerfing went too far BUT the main concept was right.
Should I raise an argument? Ok: The main game was so easy, some thrown a tantrum when we had got the ab extension, and then in ab+ they made the ultra hard challange as a response.
Some of you are acting like you can't adapt the new style of the game but a lot of other ppl can! Can't you all get that they gave us a ton of new (and op) items/trinkets with some juicy sinergies.
I know that this is not the old way BUT think about it like this: the old method might have been the wrong one! (At least as we can see in Edmund's eye) (I assume you did not use for instance the normal mode either (But now it became a thing))

too bad i get the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ items every run, i got almost none of those great new item u talkin bout lmao

Didn't you? I started a new game slot after saw some trivia of the new things, in that save atm i have like 30-40~ new items. (about 10 runs)

[shiftcore]

as someone who got 1001% and did the keeper and the lost with delerium. i can say this update is way too hard.
if everything had stayed the same, such as enemy health, items being as strong. before the newly added bosses and levels it really wouldn't be as bad, but there has been nerfs to some of the most op items in the game (brimstone) pretty much almost all the devil deal items.

i feel like im resetting for better items for a good run for, nothing? as it really doesn't feel like its making any difference anymore. the enjoyment out of isaac for me was getting rly awesome combos that made u so op that it was fun to beat everything. but now its like i don't even know what items i should be aiming for anymore.
it's bad, the balancing is super bad. i can't even imagine the people trying to beat the final boss atm, because im sorry but there is a reason those achivements are still at 0% cuz it's way too hard.

[FrozenStar]

Ashpit is such a great level.
Gehenna is plain awesome.

Restarting a run because you got some alternate level is plain pathetic and stupid. You are the first person who does that, honestly.

Such great layouts, great music, new content, new enemies, new experience.
And you restart it.

That's retarted.

[COOLSKELETON95]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

but there has been nerfs to some of the most op items in the game (brimstone) pretty much almost all the devil deal items.

if your main descriptor of an item is that it's "overpowered" then that means it's poorly balanced, and nerfing it is probably a good idea.

[FrozenStar]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

as someone who got 1001% and did the keeper and the lost with delerium. i can say this update is way too hard.

Everyone got 1001% at this point.
As someone who got 1000000% in 2017, I can say this update is great and not that hard. Die a couple of times and you'll learn the pattern. It's damn easy.
New enemies = unknown behaviour = you receive damage. Practice a bit and it becomes okay.

The only problem for me currently is the final boss in the corpse due to sheer randomness and stupid small arena.

Only pathetic players restart runs for any reason. Fight until the end, proceed as far as you can, and gather as much experience as you can. Dodging the whole corpse level with last heart remaining and no damage items is a much bigger experience and lesson than restarting basement like a degenerate because you got mom's bra in the item room.

[Dark Bison]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

as someone who got 1001% and did the keeper and the lost with delerium. i can say this update is way too hard.
if everything had stayed the same, such as enemy health, items being as strong. before the newly added bosses and levels it really wouldn't be as bad, but there has been nerfs to some of the most op items in the game (brimstone) pretty much almost all the devil deal items.

i feel like im resetting for better items for a good run for, nothing? as it really doesn't feel like its making any difference anymore. the enjoyment out of isaac for me was getting rly awesome combos that made u so op that it was fun to beat everything. but now its like i don't even know what items i should be aiming for anymore.
it's bad, the balancing is super bad. i can't even imagine the people trying to beat the final boss atm, because im sorry but there is a reason those achivements are still at 0% cuz it's way too hard.

The game is geared a bit towards skill with the latest update, it doesn't mean it's bad now, you just gotta
https://i.imgur.com/IENE5Wv.jpeg

Once you practice and actually put a bit of effort into pattern recognition and not being solely carried by one overpowered item then you will breeze through the game. The game now isn't hard for the sake of being hard, it is the most balanced it's been in years imo. I don't want to seem mean but I find that a lot of people want the game to be easy for the sake of being easy and that's not fun either. Original hard mode wasn't hard enough to a lot of vet players as myself. You will start to love the new update once you adapt your mindset to the new meta and enemies. Just takes time and practice.

[Tomal]

Originally posted by SilverTank:

And one more thing: now the game, in difficulty, started to show similarities with the original flash based game and as we might know, Edmund wanted this all the time. :isaac:
Is this enough argument raising for you?

lol, did everything on the original BoI back in the day and even Eternal God when the update came, the game was never even close to be hard as repetance is now, with ultra tanky enemies and bullet spam, if something, in each update the game strays more from its roots.

[Toxi]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

as someone who got 1001% and did the keeper and the lost with delerium. i can say this update is way too hard.
if everything had stayed the same, such as enemy health, items being as strong. before the newly added bosses and levels it really wouldn't be as bad, but there has been nerfs to some of the most op items in the game (brimstone) pretty much almost all the devil deal items.

i feel like im resetting for better items for a good run for, nothing? as it really doesn't feel like its making any difference anymore. the enjoyment out of isaac for me was getting rly awesome combos that made u so op that it was fun to beat everything. but now its like i don't even know what items i should be aiming for anymore.
it's bad, the balancing is super bad. i can't even imagine the people trying to beat the final boss atm, because im sorry but there is a reason those achivements are still at 0% cuz it's way too hard.

same.. I haven't beaten anything yet as keeper, still working on the lost, but this is my chief complaint so far, maybe some enemies being a bit too much, like min-min with base stats.

I don't really get the nerfs is all, I'd argue that now more than ever we could use the best the game has to offer, because with bosses like The Mausoleum / Gehenas ones, I think it's safe to say that the game isn't holding back any punches.